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    1987/8

    Would anyone know the wheat price in 1987-8 ? ( I think it was about 120)

    Also the price of wheat fungicides then - sportak, NBC, tilt, Pp450/pointer.

    And ferts prices

    all help gratefully received

    EP

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    Re: 1987/8

    Feed wheat at harvest 88, we used 102/t for gross margin calcs.

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    Re: 1987/8

    I don't know about 87/8 but I have SAC Management Handbook for 1985/6:

    grain 100/t, straw 10/t

    seed (C2) 245/t = 54/ha
    N 49p/kg, P 43p/kg, K 19p/kg =93/ha
    spray (one of herbicide, two of fungicide) = 50/ha
    'other' (baling twine) = 3/ha

    total variable costs 200/ha

    gross margin 525 at 7t/ha (plus or minus 100 for every ton/ha above or below that)

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    Re: 1987/8

    Have to try and find an old british farmer and stockbreeder, if it had, nt stopped by then, hideing in a cupboard somewhere?

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    Quote Originally Posted by essexpeasant View Post
    Would anyone know the wheat price in 1987-8 ? ( I think it was about 120)

    Also the price of wheat fungicides then - sportak, NBC, tilt, Pp450/pointer.

    And ferts prices

    all help gratefully received

    EP
    Hey Essex Peasant, HGCA is your friend, as if you didn't know
    Go to the MI page and look up the historical Corn Returns data. You can select prices by region, period ........... more data than you can shake a stick at

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    Re: 1987/8

    Quote Originally Posted by RGT View Post
    Have to try and find an old british farmer and stockbreeder, if it had, nt stopped by then, hideing in a cupboard somewhere?
    i think BFS had gone by then but a copy of FW or BFW would do the job

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    Quote Originally Posted by An Gof View Post
    Hey Essex Peasant, HGCA is your friend, as if you didn't know
    Go to the MI page and look up the historical Corn Returns data. You can select prices by region, period ........... more data than you can shake a stick at
    Hey An Gof

    thats a little bit embarrassing. Hopefully it can stay just between us two.

    good thinking though , why didn't I think of that?

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    Re: 1987/8

    Quote Originally Posted by tom View Post
    I don't know about 87/8 but I have SAC Management Handbook for 1985/6:

    grain 100/t, straw 10/t

    seed (C2) 245/t = 54/ha
    N 49p/kg, P 43p/kg, K 19p/kg =93/ha
    spray (one of herbicide, two of fungicide) = 50/ha
    'other' (baling twine) = 3/ha

    total variable costs 200/ha

    gross margin 525 at 7t/ha (plus or minus 100 for every ton/ha above or below that)
    many thanks Tom

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    Quote Originally Posted by essexpeasant View Post
    Hey An Gof

    thats a little bit embarrassing. Hopefully it can stay just between us two.

    good thinking though , why didn't I think of that?

    No the world now knows I had a quick look last night but data may not go back as far as you want. I have some fungicide and fert costs from my old farm records if that is any help for the years you require. How soon do you need the info, it's a bit busy for me this week

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    Re: 1987/8

    Quote Originally Posted by An Gof View Post
    No the world now knows I had a quick look last night but data may not go back as far as you want. I have some fungicide and fert costs from my old farm records if that is any help for the years you require. How soon do you need the info, it's a bit busy for me this week
    I'm doing a panel thing at cereals on fungicides and wanted just a quick stroll down memory lane - also I think we have become proactive with fungicide use where we used to be reactive.

    So I wanted some 1988 prices for things like tilt, NBC, sportak , Pp450 etc.

    But I've got them in the barn loft somewhere

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    Re: 1987/8

    Quote Originally Posted by essexpeasant View Post
    Would anyone know the wheat price in 1987-8 ? ( I think it was about 120)

    Also the price of wheat fungicides then - sportak, NBC, tilt, Pp450/pointer.

    And ferts prices

    all help gratefully received

    EP
    I sold full spec Avalon at 145 in March '88 and a couple of loads didn't make it (surprise surprise) and "went for feed" at 103.50 (not that I am at all cynical about milling tests with a 40 premium to be had, you understand )

    The stand out for '87 harvest was Triumph spring barley which ran just over 3 tonnes/acre over 170 acres and made 144 Nov '87.

    JP

    (bloody hell that was 25 years ago )
    (and while I'm at it, fat cattle averaged 640 + variable premium) (and the sun shone)

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    Re: 1987/8

    Just looked back at some of our annual reports - these were average prices after all deductions

    Feed wheat 1987 harvest 101.01/t
    1988 harvest 99.24/t

    Milling Wheat 1987 Harvest 104.97/t
    1988 harvest 112.56/t

    Winter Barley(feed) 1987 harvest 91.63/t
    1988 harvest 101.24/t

    Oil seed rape 1987 harvest 227.27/t
    1988 harvest 263.22/t

    Winter beans 1988 harvest 151/t

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaypee View Post
    I sold full spec Avalon at 145 in March '88 and a couple of loads didn't make it (surprise surprise) and "went for feed" at 103.50 (not that I am at all cynical about milling tests with a 40 premium to be had, you understand )

    The stand out for '87 harvest was Triumph spring barley which ran just over 3 tonnes/acre over 170 acres and made 144 Nov '87.

    JP

    (bloody hell that was 25 years ago )
    (and while I'm at it, fat cattle averaged 640 + variable premium) (and the sun shone)

    And a new John Deere 3050 which seemed big enough for every job cost less than 18K, do you think we have progressed ?

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    Re: 1987/8

    In spring 88 there was a lot of spring barley sown around here, due to the extreme wet weather in Autumn 87
    87 wheat harvest was disappointing (if you grew Moulin)

    ring any bells ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rogerm View Post
    In spring 88 there was a lot of spring barley sown around here, due to the extreme wet weather in Autumn 87
    87 wheat harvest was disappointing (if you grew Moulin)

    ring any bells ?
    I remember the Moulin fiasco. Is it really that long ago? Luckily, i didn't grow it, but a lot of farmers around here did. I reckon it cost the seed company a pretty penny by the time everything was sorted.

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    Re: 1987/8

    Remember those days well, Sportak at first node, Tilt at flagleaf and a bit of Bravo and Dithane as an ear wash and heypresto 4 tons an acre near enough across the farm. Mind you I didn't know what blackgrass was then, now I can't move for the b****y stuff.

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