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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldmacdonald View Post
    This thread makes me sad. I actually can't believe people feel so strongly against people out enjoying being in the countryside.
    Mayo, your post shows you've reached a new low.
    I'm taking the P1ss man, lighten up.

    Reached a new low, well I always aim to please, you know me.

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    I have tried three times to respond to this thread, sadly words fail me.
    don't forget you seat attendants, those in glass houses should not throw stones.
    it is often cyclists who are held up by tractors

    i have always been treated with the greatest of respect by local car and tractor drivers, I hope I have responded in kind.
    it is a great sport and you should try it.
    i regularly do over 50 miles a day and some days 100+
    I have never been so fit, or seen so many crops

    If you go out for a jaunt with a friend, would you want to be looking up his a**e all day.
    Would you want to be riding in the potholes which pass for the side of the road either?

    Thank you to those in East Anglia who seem to have a far greater respect for cyclists than the average on this forum, and a very big thank you to those who have sponsored me.

    i would urge those who feel they have lost out by cycling events to get involved, they have a very green image, and it may be a very good event to promote themselves at.
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    no problem with normal cyclists at all,, but the racing cyclists I detest very dangerous and very arrogant as are there supporters this is my experience anyway (why would u try and pass on my lh side on a road barely wide enough for two vehicles, if a car approached me guess what was going to happen? total wipeout?

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    There was a race round here a few weeks ago, they seem to think they can close a road up as no one works on a Sunday do they Moving cattle and saw the signs for a cycle race, round the next corners were escorts on motorbikes flashing lights then bloody loads of them. It wasnt a wide road but they were overtaking over the white lines. I had a trailer which runs tight to the lines and very nearly had a few of them. I stopped and told the marshals they were bloody dangerous but they didn't seem to give a toss. I was polite by the way but next time I won't be. There were more at the weekend they use a hill that they seem to do a time trial on and go round the roundabout and hold up the traffic, while I've got nothing better to do than make hay for fun. Always makes me life a when you see an obese cyclist with an aerodynamic hat on
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uwork4menow View Post
    I'm taking the P1ss man, lighten up.

    Reached a new low, well I always aim to please, you know me.
    I hate to be the one to break this to you but your poundshop Jeremy Clarkson act is about as funny as getting one's old chap caught on the baler flywheel.

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    Well, I've cycled for years, for pleasure and as a commuter, you could say; and until recently my sympathy would have all been for the cyclist. But I think now that there is a new arrogant breed of cyclist that sees itself as having the moral high ground - green and healthy and always the victim of the fat, lazy, fossil-fuel-greedy motorist - and I'm afraid I don't really like this new breed.

    There was a time in the 60's, 70's 80's when cycling had become really dangerous; numbers of cars had increased and it was assumed that everyone else was secondary to the motorist; that the road belonged to the motorist; pedestrians and cyclists had to defer to the car. However, returning to cycling at the end of the 90's after a long gap I realised that motorists have to a large extent seen the light and now give cyclists more room, more time and more respect than previously. I was actually disconcerted by the way in which motorists whom I expected to overtake me, for example, hung back and didn't risk it until it was clearly safe. I'd stayed alive by nurturing a mistrust of motorists until mistrust was second nature; but suddenly most drivers were behaving with a lot more consideration and awareness of cyclists.

    However it is almost as if the cyclist has taken up the arrogance that the driver has laid down. I helped on a survey of a long distance footpath / cyclepath in Edinburgh just last year. There was a new question on that survey asking for information on accidents involving cyclists and pedestrians. After a couple of hours there I could see why. The speeds at which the cyclists were travelling; racing speeds sometimes; their disregard - contempt, even, for people out walking, maybe with young children or dogs; the clear assumption that this was a cyclepath and pedestrians were there on sufferance and should stand aside - it was disgusting. I would have thought cyclists, of all people, would have had sympathy for vulnerable road-users; but it seems not.

    There is a disturbing move up here to make the cyclist blameless in any accident involving a bike and a car and to assume the car driver is always at fault. Not sure how this works when the car is parked and empty, as in the last such accident I heard about.

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    Heard an almightly crash and swearing outside my farm gate one day last year. Rushed out and our dogs had run over the road and three cyclists had crashed, bikes and cyclists all over the road. Like a complete idiot I said I would pay for everything as the dogs shouldn't have been out, left the door open accidentally. It didn't dawn on me for a few days why all of them went down and not just one. As usual they were riding in a close group so they could talk to each other, no distance for them to stop in an accident. In hindsight, I should have offered to pay for just the first one who went down and actually, maybe even he wouldn;t have gone down if the others hadn't smashed into his rear.

    Got nothing against people who cycle, that used to include me and we're thinking of taking it up again, but many do become arrogant when on a bike.

    Another time, I was puling out across the road from the farm to the field opposite to load lambs at 6 in the morning. Cyclist came round the corner as the Landrover was just half way across the road, loads of time for him to stop (100 yards), but he didn't brake or slow down. I thought shall I stop, speed up, or just keep on steadily crossing, went for the latter so as not to cause surprise. He still didn't brake until I was further across when he realised, in the last 10-15 meters, that I had a trailer behind me! At that point, far too late, he decided to apply his brakes, shouted "Oh sh1t" very loudly followed by "Why don't you watch where you are going" !!!! He managed to swerve behind the trailer but was very lucky not to have just gone straight into it.
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    And then there is the one who thinks it is a good idea to pull himself along by hanging on to the rear of a combine

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    A couple of years ago, our council extended the footpath along the roadside and re-classified it as a cycle-path. The problem is that only the "recreational" cyclists. i.e. elderly and children, use it. The lycra brigade still insist on using the road. The thing that really gets me is that the council has built crossing points at a roundabout complete with signs saying "cyclists dismount". Of course no-one does and the majority ride the wrong way down the road straight into the track of vehicles that are leaving a 70+ mph dual carriageway. That's almost as sensible as the cycle club that used to hold races on the A38 between Lichfield and Derby. I believe that was stopped due to the accident rate - thank god [sometimes] for risk assessments.

    Last night at about 10:30, just taking the tractor home after a long day. Nearly took out an idiot cyclist at the spot I described above. He was dressed entirely in black, helmet, lycra suit, shoes, even black wrap around sunglasses [at night!!] Riding completely on the wrong side of the road without any lights at all, The only way I saw him was the tractor lights shone on the reflectors on his pedals. But who would have been at fault if I'd failed to spot him?
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    guy i know knocked a cyclist off yesterday while on his motorbike with his sister on the back, woman just turned out in front of him, ok apprently, but that's what you have to deal with now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matbrojoe View Post
    I hate to be the one to break this to you but your poundshop Jeremy Clarkson act is about as funny as getting one's old chap caught on the baler flywheel.
    OUCH!! that must have hurt!! Did you get it sown back on again?

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    Joke

    A man wins the lottery and buys himself a big Mercedes benz,as has always wanted one.
    On the way out of the showroom he thinks ill go show my best mate my new car .
    His mate jumps in the car and stars fiddling with all the gadgets and feels how well designed and perfect the car is made
    After a few minutes he notices the star on the bonnet and asks his friend, why his new car has that thing on the bonnet the star!

    The car owner says that’s a special German cyclist’s sight to knock them off the road
    Both mean laugh and carry on driving around after a while they come up behind a cyclist
    With a knowing grin they look at each other and accelerate,then just at the last moment the driver swerves to go around the cyclist
    His much bewildered friend turns to him and asks how much this car cost!!
    boastingly the driver says 150 k
    The passenger says well if I were you, I would take it back, but for me opening my door you would have mist that cyclist!

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    This morning between J24 and J23 on the M62 westbound hard shoulder what was there ?









    You've guessed it - A Cyclist

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    In response to Elaine's post above, has anyone encountered an organisation called 'Reclaim the Streets'?

    Walking through Brighton on holiday there were a couple of hundred cyclists circling the Old Steine, 'protesting' and holding up traffic for an afternoon.
    A car driver said 'something' to one of them and the cyclist went ballistic, screaming and shouting a tirade of obscenities. The cyclists gathered round - but distanced themselves when the gathering crowd turned against the cyclist. It was a bizarre sight, but I'm told this group go out of their way to try and be a regular pain in the arse in London and the South.

    Militant hardcore cyclists - who'd have thought it!

    Edit - googled them, and they are a collective of anti capitalist fruit loops -"Our streets are as full of capitalism as of cars and the pollution of capitalism is much more insidious."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Panzer IV View Post
    Militant hardcore cyclists - who'd have thought it!

    Edit - googled them, and they are a collective of anti capitalist fruit loops -"Our streets are as full of capitalism as of cars and the pollution of capitalism is much more insidious."

    Said while riding a branded bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcot View Post
    OUCH!! that must have hurt!! Did you get it sown back on again?
    Nah, fortunately i could stand to lose a few inches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matbrojoe View Post
    Nah, fortunately i could stand to lose a few inches.
    I always thought you were a big d*ck

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    Well, I've cycled for years, for pleasure and as a commuter, you could say; and until recently my sympathy would have all been for the cyclist. But I think now that there is a new arrogant breed of cyclist that sees itself as having the moral high ground - green and healthy and always the victim of the fat, lazy, fossil-fuel-greedy motorist - and I'm afraid I don't really like this new breed.

    There was a time in the 60's, 70's 80's when cycling had become really dangerous; numbers of cars had increased and it was assumed that everyone else was secondary to the motorist; that the road belonged to the motorist; pedestrians and cyclists had to defer to the car. However, returning to cycling at the end of the 90's after a long gap I realised that motorists have to a large extent seen the light and now give cyclists more room, more time and more respect than previously. I was actually disconcerted by the way in which motorists whom I expected to overtake me, for example, hung back and didn't risk it until it was clearly safe. I'd stayed alive by nurturing a mistrust of motorists until mistrust was second nature; but suddenly most drivers were behaving with a lot more consideration and awareness of cyclists.

    However it is almost as if the cyclist has taken up the arrogance that the driver has laid down. I helped on a survey of a long distance footpath / cyclepath in Edinburgh just last year. There was a new question on that survey asking for information on accidents involving cyclists and pedestrians. After a couple of hours there I could see why. The speeds at which the cyclists were travelling; racing speeds sometimes; their disregard - contempt, even, for people out walking, maybe with young children or dogs; the clear assumption that this was a cyclepath and pedestrians were there on sufferance and should stand aside - it was disgusting. I would have thought cyclists, of all people, would have had sympathy for vulnerable road-users; but it seems not.

    There is a disturbing move up here to make the cyclist blameless in any accident involving a bike and a car and to assume the car driver is always at fault. Not sure how this works when the car is parked and empty, as in the last such accident I heard about.

    I don't think it's a case of drivers or cyclists, there are people who are idiots and people who aren't, people who act with consideration to other road users and people who don't, no particular group of road users has a monopoly on either.

    I move cattle on the road every day in summer, and i regularly come across people who want to run me down rather than wait a couple of minutes for the cows to cross, I don't necessarily think they're representative of all car drivers though, in fact many car drivers behave quite reasonably. I'm never keen on lumping disparate groups of people together and giving them stereotypical negative attributes, just replace cyclists with farmers, and think of the negative stereotypes people hold about us. the wildlife destroying, land raping hedgerow demolishing, badger killing, disease spreading, get oorrf moi laaaand shouting subsidy scroungers that we are.

    This is a a really depressing thread, not just because it's chock full of comments that seek to demonise and dehumanise other vulnerable road users who are, after all, just people trying to get on the same as everyone else, but because the people expressing these views actually hold valid driving licences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matbrojoe View Post
    I don't think it's a case of drivers or cyclists, there are people who are idiots and people who aren't, people who act with consideration to other road users and people who don't, no particular group of road users has a monopoly on either.

    I move cattle on the road every day in summer, and i regularly come across people who want to run me down rather than wait a couple of minutes for the cows to cross, I don't necessarily think they're representative of all car drivers though, in fact many car drivers behave quite reasonably. I'm never keen on lumping disparate groups of people together and giving them stereotypical negative attributes, just replace cyclists with farmers, and think of the negative stereotypes people hold about us. the wildlife destroying, land raping hedgerow demolishing, badger killing, disease spreading, get oorrf moi laaaand shouting subsidy scroungers that we are.

    This is a a really depressing thread, not just because it's chock full of comments that seek to demonise and dehumanise other vulnerable road users who are, after all, just people trying to get on the same as everyone else, but because the people expressing these views actually hold valid driving licences.
    Stop moaning you old coot.

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    good comeback, no, really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matbrojoe View Post
    I don't think it's a case of drivers or cyclists, there are people who are idiots and people who aren't, people who act with consideration to other road users and people who don't, no particular group of road users has a monopoly on either.

    I move cattle on the road every day in summer, and i regularly come across people who want to run me down rather than wait a couple of minutes for the cows to cross, I don't necessarily think they're representative of all car drivers though, in fact many car drivers behave quite reasonably. I'm never keen on lumping disparate groups of people together and giving them stereotypical negative attributes, just replace cyclists with farmers, and think of the negative stereotypes people hold about us. the wildlife destroying, land raping hedgerow demolishing, badger killing, disease spreading, get oorrf moi laaaand shouting subsidy scroungers that we are.

    This is a a really depressing thread, not just because it's chock full of comments that seek to demonise and dehumanise other vulnerable road users who are, after all, just people trying to get on the same as everyone else, but because the people expressing these views actually hold valid driving licences.
    top post I have to say around here motorists are considerate to both me as a cyclist and as a farmer we cross the road with our herd every day from feb to dec with very few problems we are more likely to have a chat than a moan we try to help out by splitting the herd when the motivation of the herd drops of in October the cyclists always stop get off and walk through the cows the increased numbers of cyclists means the cows are more used to them now so don't run away in a mad panic. as a cyclist cars usually wait for an appropriate moment to over take but like anything/anybody there are twats. it really is you get what you give Karma rules

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    Quote Originally Posted by Predial View Post
    Someone tries to knock me off most days. There is no type that tries to kill me nor is there a type of person that is careful. You'd think that young lads would be more wreckless than school run mums, but I'm just as likely if not more so, have a mum who should know better try to squeeze past than a young tearaway.

    Perhaps sir would like to get off his tractor and see what it is like with a tractor bearing down on you or see how to react to the unmistakable roar of an SUV gaining quickly, or are you too fat for cycling?

    wouldn't happen i would pull over on it and let em by if they were following, called manors which sadly 99.9% of cyclists dont have around hear

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    Sir Bradley Of Wiggins won the Tour' in spite of everything, not because of it. In France people will be lining the streets to wave the cyclists past, here they try and knock them off.

    It's the same when your bike has an engine, people in France and Germany wave, give the thumbs up, let you out of junctions, help you over take, here they try and knock you off.
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    So much for them doing it for the exercise, couple weeks back stopped at a junction with the sprayer and saw a cyclist in my mirror coming up behind me. Pulled out of the junction and down the road couldn't see any sign of him. Had a proper look behind me and the twat was right in my blind spot hanging on to my wee car trailer. Slowed down as wasn't safe in hope he'd bugger off then he let go of the trailer proceeded to overtake me with an almighty grin pedalling like hell until he was knackered and then held me up. Felt like lamping him once I was by him. No need whatsoever
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bumble Bee View Post
    They are shutting the roads round here for a day next weekend to allow a cycle race. Only shutting it one way though. Traffic will be allowed to travel in the same direction as the racers. And do you know why? Because the organisers have done a risk assessment and decided that the racers cannot be trusted not to overtake on the wrong side of the road on blind corners and hill tops.

    Cars and motorbikes are not allowed to race on public roads. Why should a large group of cyclists be allowed too?

    Sorry. Racing cyclists are one of my few pet hates in life.
    I totally agree !! They use to race down the local duel carriageway...complete madness . Where is there tax disc & insurance ??

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    No problem with loan cyclists or small groups, my issue is with races organised by small clubs that take it within their right they can shut the road to allow the race. Then block the entire road as we are moving kit or want to get past. I was once on sisters horse and met a cycle race around a corner, the horse flinched at the sight of a mass of bikes and lycra flying towards him and the cyclists flinched more, like a set of dominos all the way down to the back of the race. There was bits of tyre and lycra everywhere. I said nice day for it and carried on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derky View Post
    No problem with loan cyclists or small groups, my issue is with races organised by small clubs that take it within their right they can shut the road to allow the race. Then block the entire road as we are moving kit or want to get past. I was once on sisters horse and met a cycle race around a corner, the horse flinched at the sight of a mass of bikes and lycra flying towards him and the cyclists flinched more, like a set of dominos all the way down to the back of the race. There was bits of tyre and lycra everywhere. I said nice day for it and carried on.

    They don't even bother to shut the roads round here,its absolute carnage.
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    A couple of years ago, our council extended the footpath along the roadside and re-classified it as a cycle-path. The problem is that only the "recreational" cyclists. i.e. elderly and children, use it. The cycle briigade still insist on using the road. The thing that really gets me is that the council has built crossing points at a roundabout complete with signs saying "cyclists dismount". Of course no-one does and the majority ride the wrong way down the road straight into the track of vehicles that are leaving a 70+ mph dual carriageway. Thats almost as sensible as the cycle club that used to hold races on the A38 between Lichfield and Derby. I believe that was stopped due to the accident rate - thank god [sometimes] for risk assessments.
    Sadly many cycle paths are no smoother than the average cattle grid, alright for the MTB brigade but killing for the road bikes.
    the best roads for cycling are normally main roads as it seems only these are maintained any longer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by batman View Post
    I totally agree !! They use to race down the local dual carriageway...complete madness . Where is there tax disc & insurance ??
    They were racing down the A168 dual carriageway near Thrisk two or three weeks back. They won't cross the line onto the hard shoulder. No, they have to ride up the main carriageway. It made me cringe when I saw it. It looked plain suicidal!.

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    There is a new public right of way that recently opened that comes out of Harrogate. It follows the route of a disused railway line. It is a proper job, with about 3.5 metres of tarmac all the way down. Within days of it opening, this happened.http://www.harrogate-news.co.uk/2013...ear-harrogate/

    This path is open to walkers, horse riders and cyclists. After this accident appeared in the local press, a racing cycling organisation (or at least its forum members) went into overdrive on the social network. They wanted horses banned from the path, which funnily enough is designated a bridleway. They criticised walkers for walking 2 abreast. They even criticise other 'normal cyclists' for not keeping to the side. Yet they think it is fine to run at breakneck speed past horse and families with small children running about and old ladies who are just out for a quiet stroll.

    I have nothing against your average cyclist. 9 out of 10 who cycle down the road passed our yard will give you a hello as they pass.

    The award for the most friendly group of cyclists has to go to tandem riders. They always give you a friendly hello, without fail.

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