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    Vintage match plough?

    I'm thinking of learning and getting into match ploughing..
    I dont want to spend a bucket load as im only starting off. Have anyone any suggestions on a plough? I will have it on a 4000.

    Any info will be appreciated!

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    Re: Vintage match plough?

    ransome ts 59 with 183 mouldboards try to get genuine kristeel boards. to do the best job you need a sliding cross shaft and adjustable wheel(width) for a 4000 probably a three furrow

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    Re: Vintage match plough?

    Why are TS59s worth such a lot more than TS 90s?

    Would a TS 90 not do for a Ford 4000? They're both from the same era I'm guessing.


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    Re: Vintage match plough?

    Quote Originally Posted by JimF View Post
    Why are TS59s worth such a lot more than TS 90s?

    Would a TS 90 not do for a Ford 4000? They're both from the same era I'm guessing.

    Nice plough but is not allowed for vintage is it?
    but I know someone who would be pleased to get his hands on it if you are looking to sell
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    Re: Vintage match plough?

    What are the different models that ransome make? And why would it have to be the same era as my 1975 ford?

    Are boards, points,landslides easily got?

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    Your tractor would put you in the classic class not vintage. Vintage is pre December 1959 and Classic is from 1959 until 1976. A TS 59 with TCN boards would be ideal for the class unless you are feeling really flushed and lash out on a TS 86 with the same boards.

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    Re: Vintage match plough?

    Quote Originally Posted by 4000 View Post
    What are the different models that ransome make? And why would it have to be the same era as my 1975 ford?

    Are boards, points,landslides easily got?
    the best and most accurate way of getting clued up on ransomes ploughs is to buy this book http://www.oldpond.com/acatalog/rans...re_ploughs.htm

    wearing parts are nearly all obtainable some are being made new but most of them are not cheap. try and find a plough already with discs and skimmers as buying them separate can be expensive.

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    Re: Vintage match plough?

    what would a ts 59 set me back? Would it need a landwheel? where could i pick up TCN boards if they aint already on it?

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    Re: Vintage match plough?

    Quote Originally Posted by JimF View Post
    Why are TS59s worth such a lot more than TS 90s?

    Would a TS 90 not do for a Ford 4000? They're both from the same era I'm guessing.

    You would never advocate SCNs (they look like that) would you Jim for match ploughing ? Very good body for commercial work in their day though.

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    A ts 59 could be bought from scrap value upwards depending on condition and what boards it has got. A land wheel is a must as is a sliding cross shaft and you must be able to move the land wheel out to finish. TCN boards will set you back about 300 for a pair but you will also need the frogs, landslides wings and points if you convert from another body. Probably cheaper to find a plough with TCN boards already on it. Westlake plough parts Has a good selection of ploughs and parts but he is not cheap, but he does have a vast stock of parts that you will struggle to find elsewhere.

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    Just seen the post above and SCN and UCN bodies are not allowed in classic ploughing.

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    Re: Vintage match plough?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tonym View Post
    Just seen the post above and SCN and UCN bodies are not allowed in classic ploughing.
    Why?

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    Re: Vintage match plough?

    Just been informed that there is a ransome robin plough near by. its been in a hedge for a number of long time and would need a painting etc, for sale for 300 It is also in original condition. So what bodies would it have? TCN? Would it need new boards or would a run through the sand polish them up? I have not seen the plough yet

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    Re: Vintage match plough?

    EPIC most likely, not popular for match ploughing.

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    Re: Vintage match plough?

    tcn mouldboards are perfect for heavier soils but if you have light or sticky soils go for the YL 183 its the best allrounder and you dont need to go so deep , they can be used in classic classes. You can plough backwards until you start winning then the world will come in on you

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    Re: Vintage match plough?

    Quote Originally Posted by 4000 View Post
    Just been informed that there is a ransome robin plough near by. its been in a hedge for a number of long time and would need a painting etc, for sale for 300 It is also in original condition. So what bodies would it have? TCN? Would it need new boards or would a run through the sand polish them up? I have not seen the plough yet
    If it has discs and skims well worth the money in any state
    the boards will be epic or YL


    in my opinion I would not buy an EPIC plough for any money
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    Re: Vintage match plough?

    will there be any mark on them to determind wheather epic or YL?

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    Re: Vintage match plough?

    Quote Originally Posted by Exfarmer View Post
    in my opinion I would not buy an EPIC plough for any money
    I would have one if it was given to me. So that I could get the gas axe out and cut it up for scrap and make a few bob. Because that's all they are good for.

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    Re: Vintage match plough?

    Quote Originally Posted by 4000 View Post
    will there be any mark on them to determind wheather epic or YL?
    EPIC has a shin. YL doesn't.

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    Re: Vintage match plough?

    No landwheel either. Would it be a big deal without?

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    Re: Vintage match plough?

    Quote Originally Posted by 4000 View Post
    will there be any mark on them to determind wheather epic or YL?
    EPIC has a wing; YL doesn't, only a point and board.

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    Re: Vintage match plough?

    Quote Originally Posted by Exfarmer View Post
    In my opinion I would not buy an EPIC plough for any money
    What's the prob with EPIC?

    Does it do a bad ploughing job? Or is it just not suited to match ploughing, because it ploughs too deep?

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    Re: Vintage match plough?

    http://issuu.com/amberlady/docs/good_ploughing_hi-q
    An old version of Ransomes good ploughing. Towards the back are detailed descriptions of various bodies. left click on page to enlarge view.

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    Re: Vintage match plough?

    Quote Originally Posted by WoollyToo View Post
    What's the prob with EPIC?

    Does it do a bad ploughing job? Or is it just not suited to match ploughing, because it ploughs too deep?
    It is an awful body
    Just stands the furrow up
    i have seen the last 50 yards fall back as if you have not touched it

    the epic share is 3 piece whereas YL is one piece
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    Re: Vintage match plough?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave.b View Post
    http://issuu.com/amberlady/docs/good_ploughing_hi-q
    An old version of Ransomes good ploughing. Towards the back are detailed descriptions of various bodies. left click on page to enlarge view.
    thank you very much for that Dave.b!! got great info from that! and got an idea even how to plough from that
    more info the better!!

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    Re: Vintage match plough?

    Quote Originally Posted by Exfarmer View Post
    It is an awful body
    Just stands the furrow up
    i have seen the last 50 yards fall back as if you have not touched it
    the epic share is 3 piece whereas YL is one piece
    Why was EPIC apparently so popular in the 1950's?

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    Re: Vintage match plough?

    Quote Originally Posted by WoollyToo View Post
    What's the prob with EPIC?

    Does it do a bad ploughing job? Or is it just not suited to match ploughing, because it ploughs too deep?
    It's neither one thing or the other. It isn't a ley body and it isn't a digger body. It was called a semi-digger body but in reality it wasn't. It won't lay it over like a YL, even if you plough shallow and it stands it up on edge if you drop it in a bit.

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    Re: Vintage match plough?

    Quote Originally Posted by WoollyToo View Post
    Why was EPIC apparently so popular in the 1950's?
    Thats what a ransomes came with.

    Where are Ransomes now
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    Re: Vintage match plough?

    Quote Originally Posted by Exfarmer View Post
    Thats what a ransomes came with.
    Where are Ransomes now?
    But there were good Ransomes bodies that came later TCN, UCN, SCN?

    Or were Ransomes behind the times and should have ditched EPIC earlier?

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    Re: Vintage match plough?

    Quote Originally Posted by Exfarmer View Post
    Thats what a ransomes came with.

    Where are Ransomes now
    Good question.

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