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    Convert agricultural buildings into houses

    From BBC http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-26471699

    Farmers will be able to convert more agricultural buildings into houses, under changes to the planning rules, which have been confirmed.

    Planning Minister Nick Boles said this would make "better use of redundant or under-used agricultural buildings" without building on the countryside.
    Up to 450 sq m (4,850 sq ft) of buildings per farm could be turned into a maximum of three houses, he added.

    However, the Department for Communities and Local Government said farmers would not be allowed to "demolish cow sheds or outbuildings", only to convert or renovate them.

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    Re: Convert agricultural buildings into houses

    Do you think this will ever filter down to the local planning depts.???

    We tried it years ago , never had so many objections etc.? have or will thing's ever be easier as , so called '' westminster ideas'' kick in ?

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    Re: Convert agricultural buildings into houses

    Local policy does have an influence but that same local policy changed over time.
    We had "easy" planning permissions for a while, then a total ban on barn conversions for a few years, then an easing of that ban and now this.
    I have read somewhere that this new policy is more for ag residency, low cost and sheltered type housing rather than a general "yes you can turn them into houses" thing.

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    Has any one tried for a conversion lately? Came across too many stumbling blocks two years ago but thinking of trying again now.
    Ond lle bu'r arad' ar y ffridd Yn rhywgo'r gwanwyn pr o'r pridd

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    Re: Convert agricultural buildings into houses

    Got one passed recently which had been refused previously.
    No changes other than local planning guidelines, attitude etc. What I am trying to say is that we resubmitted without changing things at our end.

    Had some done a few years ago (4-5 years maybe) and that was the last to get passed in this area. Starting to pass them again now, plus a lot in the news about relaxing restrictions on ag buildings.
    Stuff in the news says that it takes up your development rights so need to look that one up properly.
    Presumably you would be speaking to a planning consultant anyway.

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    Re: Convert agricultural buildings into houses

    Quote Originally Posted by Agri Design View Post
    Department for Communities and Local Government said farmers would not be allowed to "demolish cow sheds or outbuildings", only to convert or renovate them.
    Would need a good imagination to convert Cow Kennels and a Pre-fab Hosier Herringette into 3 dwellings

    Although I could see the reinforced base of a 55 ft dia slurry tower being used as the foundation for a circular straw bale house

    Maybe worth a punt ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis View Post
    Got one passed recently which had been refused previously.
    No changes other than local planning guidelines, attitude etc. What I am trying to say is that we resubmitted without changing things at our end.

    Had some done a few years ago (4-5 years maybe) and that was the last to get passed in this area. Starting to pass them again now, plus a lot in the news about relaxing restrictions on ag buildings.
    Stuff in the news says that it takes up your development rights so need to look that one up properly.
    Presumably you would be speaking to a planning consultant anyway.
    I was refused last time due to the building in their opinion being "too far gone"! It only had half a roof intact. Will have a chat with the consultant again in the morning I think as I had a chat with a local builder yesterday which gave new light to the project!!!
    Ond lle bu'r arad' ar y ffridd Yn rhywgo'r gwanwyn pr o'r pridd

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    Re: Convert agricultural buildings into houses

    Isn't there something within the new rules saying that if you do convert a building in to a house you forfeit the right to permitted development rights for 10 years? ie any other farm buildings you want to put up within 10 years will automatically need a full planning application?
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    Re: Convert agricultural buildings into houses

    Just a thought.


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    Re: Convert agricultural buildings into houses

    So is it Photo Shop or real?
    Plus if real what do you use it for?


    Quote Originally Posted by zaza View Post
    Just a thought.


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    Re: Convert agricultural buildings into houses

    Is that silo at Long Compton Zaza ?

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    Re: Convert agricultural buildings into houses

    Quote Originally Posted by Gee View Post
    So is it Photo Shop or real?
    Plus if real what do you use it for?
    No, it's real enough. A firm at Shipston-on-Stour came up with the idea. Not far from Long Compton.

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    Re: Convert agricultural buildings into houses

    Anyone used the'' planning portal'' to submit an application???

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    Re: Convert agricultural buildings into houses

    Quote Originally Posted by RGT View Post
    Anyone used the'' planning portal'' to submit an application???

    Yes I only make applications online now.

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    Re: Convert agricultural buildings into houses

    Quote Originally Posted by Agri Design View Post
    Yes I only make applications online now.

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    Looks complicated but most prob. get into it again, how do you send the plans in ,as in A3 size (2x a4 ) do you scan into printer to reduce and send in /upload as a4 pdf ? just scale be out?

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    Re: Convert agricultural buildings into houses

    Quote Originally Posted by RGT View Post
    Looks complicated but most prob. get into it again, how do you send the plans in ,as in A3 size (2x a4 ) do you scan into printer to reduce and send in /upload as a4 pdf ? just scale be out?

    All my plans are electronic so just pdf them and thats it.. Any plans you send in will have to be to scale so the planners can print them to the correct size. You can just post the plans in though, but then you may be just as well filling out the forms and posting them too.

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    Re: Convert agricultural buildings into houses

    looks like change of use- agri shed to shop/ cafe , flexible uses may be simpler too , any experiance anyone???

    Planning Portal says so ?

    Also can anyone do '' access and design'' statements ??
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    Re: Convert agricultural buildings into houses

    Strutt and Parker land briefing the other day the feeling was this could be a very narrow window and a change of govt could reverse it (as with the green belt releases).
    If you have the right building it must be a good thing. If you lose other permitted development would it be a problem? You could always apply for proper pp, if it was legitimate it would probably go through.

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