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    How many cows? How big a shed?

    Hi everybody. Due to a change in circumstances I am losing a lot of cattle buildings for next winter. At the moment I am planning to build some new sheds at our home farm so just looking for some advice.

    I am needing to house approx 250 head of suckler cows and was wondering how big the shed needs to be. I have got quotes for the following: 2 x 200ftx40ft with 4ft6" cantilievers facing each other to create a centre feed passage

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    2 x 200ftx40ft with same cantiliever but these sheds are back to back with the feed rail round the outside with a concrete panel wall down the middle of the shed to split it.

    Whats everyones thoughts? I was wondering if I might get away with bringing the over all length down a bit to maybe 160 or 180?

    Any advice would be much appreciated thanks.
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    Re: How many cows? How big a shed?

    do you intend to calve your cows inside ? as this will mean extra space to be needed & are you bedding cows or to be cleaned oot every day ? thats just sum of the things i can mind on just noo ?

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    Re: How many cows? How big a shed?

    Not much help I know , put the biggest shed you can even if you think you can't afford it, and avoid valley gutters at all costs.

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    Re: How many cows? How big a shed?

    we put up a 160 by 60 foot plus cantilever. divided into 3 sections it wintered approx. 120 sucklers and calved them in it to. straw blower only just reaches the 60 foot from the feed barrier, or you have to drive inside the shed

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    Re: How many cows? How big a shed?

    I have 80 comfortably in a 50x120 with 5 ft overhang. I have a 10ft feed passage in the shed, 1 half of the shed eats during the day, other half at night. Could at a push fit 50 in each half if I was prepared to bed every day, currently dump 12 bales in every 3rd day. Up until today I was doing all feeding and bedding with just the forklift, used the mixer wagon from other unit today to dilute good silage as cant really restrict them on bales.

    If I were you I would put the 2 sheds up with a gap between them that you could roof over in a few years time, get the 2 planned sheds uprights bored for roof trusses on both sides.

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    Re: How many cows? How big a shed?

    Quote Originally Posted by sodbuster View Post
    Hi everybody. Due to a change in circumstances I am losing a lot of cattle buildings for next winter. At the moment I am planning to build some new sheds at our home farm so just looking for some advice.

    I am needing to house approx 250 head of suckler cows and was wondering how big the shed needs to be. I have got quotes for the following: 2 x 200ftx40ft with 4ft6" cantilievers facing each other to create a centre feed passage

    OR

    2 x 200ftx40ft with same cantiliever but these sheds are back to back with the feed rail round the outside with a concrete panel wall down the middle of the shed to split it.

    Whats everyones thoughts? I was wondering if I might get away with bringing the over all length down a bit to maybe 160 or 180?

    Any advice would be much appreciated thanks.
    If you're calving inside, you want the sheds facing each other then you can see everything from the centre passage and you have a ready made temporary holding area if you need to pull individual cows out in the middle of the night.

    On the other hand, if you have alot of time on your hands and need to lose weight, endlessly walking round the outside will be best

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    Re: How many cows? How big a shed?

    Quote Originally Posted by MC130 View Post
    If you're calving inside, you want the sheds facing each other then you can see everything from the centre passage and you have a ready made temporary holding area if you need to pull individual cows out in the middle of the night.

    On the other hand, if you have alot of time on your hands and need to lose weight, endlessly walking round the outside will be best
    thats a very good point,very simple but most practial

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    Re: How many cows? How big a shed?

    Quote Originally Posted by mr muck View Post
    Could at a push fit 50 in each half if I was prepared to bed every day, currently dump 12 bales in every 3rd day.
    What size bales??
    I take it you're not paying 80-100 /ton for straw?!

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    Re: How many cows? How big a shed?

    Quote Originally Posted by MC130 View Post
    If you're calving inside, you want the sheds facing each other then you can see everything from the centre passage and you have a ready made temporary holding area if you need to pull individual cows out in the middle of the night.

    On the other hand, if you have alot of time on your hands and need to lose weight, endlessly walking round the outside will be best
    This works well just need to be careful of the gap between the roofs being to small and not letting in appropriate fresh air.

    Quote Originally Posted by mr muck View Post
    If I were you I would put the 2 sheds up with a gap between them that you could roof over in a few years time, get the 2 planned sheds uprights bored for roof trusses on both sides.
    Again a good idea but you would again need to be careful that the ventilation inlets aren't blocked off by this roof.

    The other option that you could look at would be to put up one wider shed, no valley, fewer stanchions & foundations, less drainage, fewer downpipes to get damaged, feed all under cover, only one ridge. ventilation potentially improved. With the right builder the costs of the clear span wouldn't be that much different if you look at all the costs - savings involved in both.

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