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    Best Baler

    Now I have fixed my Multifarmers pto I am on the lookout for a round baler for next year. I thought I might get a better deal buying one out of season.
    Can anyone recommend a good all round baler which will cope with hay, straw and silage. I have got 70hp @540 and 100hp @ 1000 and the machine weighs 6.5 ton.
    I am looking to spend about 7k ish. I am getting too old to do these small bales anymore.

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    Re: Best Baler

    Krone kr 125 . Simple machine , will bale anything and does not need much power. It will do the same as machines costing a lot more, albeit a little slower . Dont know the cost of one now though

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    used round balers are cheap as chips.....depends what /how many bales you're doing.....if your not going behind large combines then narrower pic ups are virtually free.....i bought a tidy vermeer 504is for 500 at a farm sale in july.....my previous welgar rp150 (still perfectly ok) sits in the shed.

    i would vote for welgar....seen several new krones appear locally then disapear.....over budget but a new mascar is 10k....but i'dve thought you'd get a good baler for 4k

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    Krones are brilliant new. If you are looking at the older type with chains supporting the bars, then it can be expensive to change chains and sprockets. Changed our chain type this year for a Comprima, with web type belts either side supporting the bars. Much quieter and potentially much longer life. Tried a second hand Claas belt baler a couple of years ago, would not go anywhere near one of them again. We find the bar type can cope with just about anything, and use a vario size model. You get about 40% more straw in a 6' compared to a 5', with proportionately less spoilt on the outside, and cut down handling, net etc just as long as you are equipped to bed down as they cannot be rolled out by hand.

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    Vicon 1601, will there be enough clearance in big swaths with a multifarmer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlieboy View Post
    Vicon 1601, will there be enough clearance in big swaths with a multifarmer?
    Good point, I never gave it any thought as my AP 630 is offset. I have just checked and although the ground clearance is similar to my previous tractor at 450mm the pick up hitch is a bit low at 320mm Its probably going to drag a bit - what do you think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by linskill View Post
    Now I have fixed my Multifarmers pto I am on the lookout for a round baler for next year. I thought I might get a better deal buying one out of season.
    Can anyone recommend a good all round baler which will cope with hay, straw and silage. I have got 70hp @540 and 100hp @ 1000 and the machine weighs 6.5 ton.
    I am looking to spend about 7k ish. I am getting too old to do these small bales anymore.
    Best thing we ever did was to ditch the small bales with the beef job! Depends what you're baling, we bought a Welger RP220 for around 7k this has 12 chopper blades which can be disengaged if you're not on silage (we prefer to chop when it goes for the cows as its fed out with an old silage chopper). Fixed chamber balers (with rollers) are ideal on silage as they can apply more pressure to the bale and are physically stronger, though chain and slat would probably be better on dry hay and straw as it can grip the forage to keep it turning better, but can't apply so much pressure to the bale as a fixed - the Krones KRs, Bellimas and Comprimas use this former system. These are a compromise to belt balers that are best suited to straw or very dry hay in my experience.

    When we've baled alongside a Class Rolland 254 baler the Welgers bales were like concrete by comparison, but Class do have a reputation for going on and on, whereas Welgers are hard on their chains so Ive been told. If you go for a fixed chamber check the condition of the rollers, these are expensive, ie west of 700 each, chains aren't too bad, neither are bearings (dont buy genuine, but good quality from specialists), but the labour can soon rack up especially on the header (even worse if you use a dealer). Also check the rotor (if shes a chopper baler) is straight and the knives align correctly - if not walk away, it writes the machine off.

    Occasionally balers come up that are one farm from new, and often done a low bale count, just being replaced to ofset tax or the farmer fancies something newer, if looked after, ie stored under cover, oiled and cleaned up, parts replaced etc, these can make an excellent buy if you're not too fussed on the all bells, ie chopper electric control (although personally I'd steer clear of twine only, alot of work at 7o'clock in the morning peeing with rain to unwrap a bale). As suggested a good Kr could be a sound investment, just steer clear of the 155, which is bigger 125/130 but without beefed up running gear (same as when Welger put a chopper on the RP200 but didnt up the size of the drive sprockets, but thats another tale).

    Good Luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by linskill View Post
    Good point, I never gave it any thought as my AP 630 is offset. I have just checked and although the ground clearance is similar to my previous tractor at 450mm the pick up hitch is a bit low at 320mm Its probably going to drag a bit - what do you think?
    Is there an unshielded prop under the merlo too? How big is the combine you will follow, how much grass do you rake up at a time. I will measure the clearance on my old baler tractor in the morning that was pretty low (cx105) but was no issue, but I never had more than 3m of grass or 25ft of straw then.

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    Re: Best Baler

    Any opinions on the modernish deere belt balers ie a572 or 582?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sjt01 View Post
    Krones are brilliant new. If you are looking at the older type with chains supporting the bars, then it can be expensive to change chains and sprockets. Changed our chain type this year for a Comprima, with web type belts either side supporting the bars. Much quieter and potentially much longer life. Tried a second hand Claas belt baler a couple of years ago, would not go anywhere near one of them again. We find the bar type can cope with just about anything, and use a vario size model. You get about 40% more straw in a 6' compared to a 5', with proportionately less spoilt on the outside, and cut down handling, net etc just as long as you are equipped to bed down as they cannot be rolled out by hand.

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    How is comprima going for u ,any faults

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    Comprima performs to expectations. No problems at all

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    Quote Originally Posted by sjt01 View Post
    Comprima performs to expectations. No problems at all

    Stephen
    How ar the 155extreme ,thinking of changing my mchale f550 for 1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Th6800 View Post
    How ar the 155extreme ,thinking of changing my mchale f550 for 1
    im actually after a mchale, where are you located? and what is the age/how many bales on the baler?
    All my tractors are treated like dog's.......the pedigree show variety

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    Quote Originally Posted by linskill View Post
    Its probably going to drag a bit - what do you think?
    If it drags "a bit" it will drag a lot unless you shield it
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