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    NI Grant Scheme (proposed)

    Just a reminder lads and lassies as mentioned in the robot thread. Submissions of interest in the scheme will close at the end of the week.
    If you have any notion of availing of it over the next few years, pull your finger out please and fill in the form online and email up to DARD. Its a PDF. It will take an evening and you'll need to have a rough idea of values in your head.

    The form indicates interest only, and thus is not binding in any way. But if insufficient interest is shown at this stage, I am told it will be stubbed out and the funds redirected.

    Its up to YOU!

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    Re: NI Grant Scheme (proposed)

    I think the pot of money should be equally divided between those who took time to fill out the survey! According to last weeks IFJ there was just over 100 respondents!!

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    Re: NI Grant Scheme (proposed)

    Quote Originally Posted by Ballygreenan View Post
    I think the pot of money should be equally divided between those who took time to fill out the survey! According to last weeks IFJ there was just over 100 respondents!!
    40% up to 600k is worth the effort?

    But before you get too excited money is coming from stormount block grant so dont expect too much

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bankville View Post
    40% up to 600k is worth the effort?

    But before you get too excited money is coming from stormount block grant so dont expect too much
    Yeah, and being delivered via DARD or DEARA as they are to become known, sounds like a government department more than capable of givin ye the skitter!!

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    Re: NI Grant Scheme (proposed)

    Do farmers honestly think that DARD are going to start listening to us now?
    CAP reform showed how little they looked at the consultation process and this will be no different. It's a pie in the sky scheme which will cost more to administer than will be paid in grants and costs of projects will rise by same amount.
    Let those looking for a way to spend their rising SFP fill it in!!!!!!!

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    Re: NI Grant Scheme (proposed)

    biggest problem with a 40% grant is the 60% bit. sometimes i feel that the spec of the grant leaves it cheaper to do it on your own

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    Quote Originally Posted by zsnotdead View Post
    biggest problem with a 40% grant is the 60% bit. sometimes i feel that the spec of the grant leaves it cheaper to do it on your own
    Factor in a 20% price hike when a supplier sniffs a grant on the go!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulscots View Post
    Factor in a 20% price hike when a supplier sniffs a grant on the go!
    Quote Originally Posted by zsnotdead View Post
    biggest problem with a 40% grant is the 60% bit. sometimes i feel that the spec of the grant leaves it cheaper to do it on your own
    Both true statements, for the likes of a shed extension or new tank you're often better off doing it without the grant.

    For single fixed items however, eg a parlour or robot, the cost is a known figure (within reason) and IF I can qualify for 50% well then I think I'll wait!

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    Re: NI Grant Scheme (proposed)

    I'm all on for a grant scheme that encourages farm improvements, modernisation and safety but think that money being taken out of northern Ireland's block grant should be creating local work and supporting local industry.
    Lely robots and other overpriced imported machinery shouldn't be in it at all!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by grassmanman View Post
    I'm all on for a grant scheme that encourages farm improvements, modernisation and safety but think that money being taken out of northern Ireland's block grant should be creating local work and supporting local industry.
    Lely robots and other overpriced imported machinery shouldn't be in it at all!!
    Well then, get onto DARD website, fill out the survey and make your opinion known! No point whinging about it on here!!

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    Re: NI Grant Scheme (proposed)

    Bet you'd take a grant on a Triolet diet feeder with Redrock stickers on it for the beef cattle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DairyFarmer111 View Post
    Bet you'd take a grant on a Triolet diet feeder with Redrock stickers on it for the beef cattle.
    Just buy a redrock

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    Up take is slow apparently with dairy farmers under represented

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    Quote Originally Posted by Accidential_Farmer View Post
    Up take is slow apparently with dairy farmers under represented
    Probably not a lot of optimism amongst dairy farmers at the moment with regards to spending money, as well as many having already upgraded their places in the last few years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ballygreenan View Post
    Well then, get onto DARD website, fill out the survey and make your opinion known! No point whinging about it on here!!
    Just completed it.
    With that list I'll be needing to win the Euromillions and then get the grant!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by grassmanman View Post
    Just completed it.
    With that list I'll be needing to win the Euromillions and then get the grant!!!
    Good lad!! If yer not in..........!

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    Re: NI Grant Scheme (proposed)

    Quote Originally Posted by Accidential_Farmer View Post
    Up take is slow apparently with dairy farmers under represented
    Extended 7days??

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    Re: NI Grant Scheme (proposed)

    Any more word on when this grant will be out

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    Quote Originally Posted by Massey6290 View Post
    Any more word on when this grant will be out
    Aparently it's now delayed, like most things about DARD!

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    Re: NI Grant Scheme (proposed)

    Have they even got the money in place to match Brussels ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ballygreenan View Post
    Aparently it's now delayed, like most things about DARD!
    Except for building new headquarters, the only thing they're interested in.
    Apparently they've bought a field at close to a million quid to make a roundabout and link road to it despite it being previously accessed by a crossroads with traffic lights when it was a large base with way more staff and housing on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grassmanman View Post
    Except for building new headquarters, the only thing they're interested in.
    Apparently they've bought a field at close to a million quid to make a roundabout and link road to it despite it being previously accessed by a crossroads with traffic lights when it was a large base with way more staff and housing on it.
    So whay you're hinting at is that DARD are squandering money on nonsense while the agricultural economy is on its knees??!

    Surely not?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ballygreenan View Post
    So whay you're hinting at is that DARD are squandering money on nonsense while the agricultural economy is on its knees??!

    Surely not?!
    They're only following the example set by stormont, preach cutbacks and spend as much as possible as foolishly as possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grassmanman View Post
    They're only following the example set by stormont, preach cutbacks and spend as much as possible as foolishly as possible.
    CAREFUL! They're watching us, they're reading this thread!!!

    Well maybe I'm becoming paranoid, but I got a phonecall from DARD today wishing to conduct a survey regarding the modernisation grant......




    The LAST one!! 3 years ago!!! I suppose they are trying to judge the success of the previous scheme before they roll the next one out. Yer man hadn't much idea about the new scheme other than to say it should be out in the next 6 months, I've been hearing that for about a year now!!

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    Re: NI Grant Scheme (proposed)

    Iv Been hearing it be out in the next 6 month well Over a year fed up waiting. lot of farmer have projects on hold which is slowing up the local economy and lots of farm are in need of it. so if dard is reading this hurry the hell up I think if their pay was cut until it's sorted out they woudnt be long getting things in place

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    Re: NI Grant Scheme (proposed)

    Are these proposed Business Development Groups where 15-20 similar type farmers in local area are grouped together with a DARD/CAFRE facilitator to discuss plans, identify goals and developments ideas, training and etc anything to do with it?

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    Re: NI Grant Scheme (proposed)

    According to the Irish farmers journal this week the discussion groups are to help farmers plan for the business improvment grant but don't think you have to be in 1 to avail of the grant but would say it would help

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    Re: NI Grant Scheme (proposed)

    Let's start an online forum type discussion group for about 15-20 northern Ireland farmers

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    Quote Originally Posted by grassmanman View Post
    Let's start an online forum type discussion group for about 15-20 northern Ireland farmers
    And how many civil servants and inspectors will that keep in a job? I think that grant jobs are a bit of a con as suppliers prices generally rise when grants are on and specs are higher, which means that the farmer ends up getting very little of the benefit.

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    Re: NI Grant Scheme (proposed)

    Quote Originally Posted by grassmanman View Post
    Let's start an online forum type discussion group for about 15-20 northern Ireland farmers
    Naw hi, it'd never take off!!

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