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    100,000 cow dairy unit being built in china:

    http://t.co/MjOUvrcBVx

    so much for the chinese being lactose intolerant.

    looks like it's intended to supply the russians, so kiss that market goodby even if the import restrictions are lifted.

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    Re: 100,000 cow dairy unit being built in china:

    Yes. And 18 months ago the bright sparks at that Dairy conference were telling us the China market was a big hole to fill for a long time to come ,and to push on producing

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    Re: 100,000 cow dairy unit being built in china:

    And Aus farmers are rubbing their hands with glee at the prices they are getting for dairy heifers...

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    Re: 100,000 cow dairy unit being built in china:

    100,000 cows is Sweet FA in a market the size of China. It will hardly have an impact on the market

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    Re: 100,000 cow dairy unit being built in china:

    Quote Originally Posted by Stewart View Post
    100,000 cows is Sweet FA in a market the size of China. It will hardly have an impact on the market
    It depends if this is the only development in intensive dairy, which i somehow doubt.

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    Re: 100,000 cow dairy unit being built in china:

    I was talking to a man from NZ this time last year and they too were rubbing there hands in glee and thinking it would go on and on. Meanwhile other reports were saying that China was building up their own milking herd with each unit growing in multiples of 1000, this being the size of the barns they erect, but somehow the advisors are dismissing this as short term due to the Chinese not having the knowledge to keep these setups going. It can turn out to be cheaper to buy in the expertise from abroad and train up your own people as you go along. It has happened in other industries and will happen again.

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    Re: 100,000 cow dairy unit being built in china:

    We shouldn't underestimate their ability and determination, however it would be interesting to know if these units depend on irrigation for example.
    China seems to have a range of rather difficult climates and probably isn't particularly suited to low cost cattle keeping on this scale.

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    Re: 100,000 cow dairy unit being built in china:

    Quote Originally Posted by 4wd View Post
    We shouldn't underestimate their ability and determination, however it would be interesting to know if these units depend on irrigation for example.
    China seems to have a range of rather difficult climates and probably isn't particularly suited to low cost cattle keeping on this scale.
    Surely simply on scale alone it couldn't be a low cost model though?

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    Re: 100,000 cow dairy unit being built in china:

    Quote Originally Posted by matbrojoe View Post
    Surely simply on scale alone it couldn't be a low cost model though?
    That depends on how diversified they are on where source their key supplies (hay, grain, etc.) and how they dispose of their waste.

    If they grow hay & grain in another area of China and ship it by train to the cattle and likewise ship the "fertilizer" to where it is needed, this might work.

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    Re: 100,000 cow dairy unit being built in china:

    Quote Originally Posted by Ironhead View Post
    That depends on how diversified they are on where source their key supplies (hay, grain, etc.) and how they dispose of their waste.

    If they grow hay & grain in another area of China and ship it by train to the cattle and likewise ship the "fertilizer" to where it is needed, this might work.
    Oh yes, i agree it may well be made to work, shipping feed and manure round thee country isn't really low cost though, surely? not compared to, say, and NZ type grass based system. not wishing to be argumentative about the merits of either system, just thinking that if you have a 1,000 cows in one place, let alone 100,000, then it's surely going to be a high input system by default?

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    Re: 100,000 cow dairy unit being built in china:

    Quote Originally Posted by matbrojoe View Post
    Oh yes, i agree it may well be made to work, shipping feed and manure round thee country isn't really low cost though, surely? not compared to, say, and NZ type grass based system. not wishing to be argumentative about the merits of either system, just thinking that if you have a 1,000 cows in one place, let alone 100,000, then it's surely going to be a high input system by default?
    Possibly, but if you could get land and labour as cheap as the Chinese can your costs could be low too! I don't see how or why the Chinese couldn't do as they already do with everything else, copy what's being done elsewhere but for less.

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    Re: 100,000 cow dairy unit being built in china:

    I don't think this is really much of an issue to merit any concern. The Chinese have a distinct lack of land and infrastructure in which to grow food, as rather a lot of their landmass is either very steep or subject to routine flooding, neither of which lend themselves very well to intensive dairying.

    I somehow doubt the Chinese will be exporting a lot of food to Russia given that A the Chinese have ample domestic demand for food themselves and B the Russians are broke.

    Food consumption in much of the world is only moving one way, even if their birth rates are slowing or static. People are wealthier and want access to better foods rather than the traditional staples. So farmers globally are a long way from needing to hang up their boots.

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