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    Meal out last night

    Crowd of us went here http://cdn.tankervillearms.com/food-menu.pdf last night for a meal ......first one for a while after calving.
    Looking down the menu the Salt cured beef caught my eye.
    26 for an 8oz portion.
    Quick bit of Pub maths resulted in the eye watering figure of a little more than 110 per kilo.....ignoring the chips and veg.
    Not a bad mark up from 3 something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gee View Post
    Crowd of us went here http://cdn.tankervillearms.com/food-menu.pdf last night for a meal ......first one for a while after calving.
    Looking down the menu the Salt cured beef caught my eye.
    26 for an 8oz portion.
    Quick bit of Pub maths resulted in the eye watering figure of a little more than 110 per kilo.....ignoring the chips and veg.
    Not a bad mark up from 3 something.
    Had the Fish!
    Gee! Gee! How could you make such an error!

    Everyone knows that when you go out for a meal - or a cup of coffee for that matter - you are not paying for the food or the coffee. The resteraunteur chucks that in for free coz it costs him/her only pennies.

    No, you are actually paying for the site rent, the cost of the decor and most of all, for the ambience. Otherwise, you'd stay home. It's only the ambience you don't get there!

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    Quote Originally Posted by john maddock View Post
    Gee! Gee! How could you make such an error!

    Everyone knows that when you go out for a meal - or a cup of coffee for that matter - you are not paying for the food or the coffee. The resteraunteur chucks that in for free coz it costs him/her only pennies.

    No, you are actually paying for the site rent, the cost of the decor and most of all, for the ambience. Otherwise, you'd stay home. It's only the ambience you don't get there!
    Yeah yeah yeah.....ambience is no different if you have half a pint or some beef at 110 a kg....
    If our farm gate price doubled to perhaps nearly 8 a kg we would be turning cartwheels....at least until we spent the lot on subsequently inflated inputs.
    Our prices are being artificially depressed whilst there is a good margins being taken elsewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by john maddock View Post
    Gee! Gee! How could you make such an error!

    Everyone knows that when you go out for a meal - or a cup of coffee for that matter - you are not paying for the food or the coffee. The resteraunteur chucks that in for free coz it costs him/her only pennies.

    No, you are actually paying for the site rent, the cost of the decor and most of all, for the ambience. Otherwise, you'd stay home. It's only the ambience you don't get there!
    Whilst I fully concur with your argument that farmers are being ripped off just so somebody else can make real money, I would point out that there is Vat on your bill, that makes a substantial difference, especially on high priced meals. So please rest content that you are making it possible for Mr Osborne to carry on making his predictions as to what will happen in 2030.
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    Where the feck did you get all the money.
    If you've won the lottery don't forget your pals.
    I only get a meal out if I eat my piece outside the tractor

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gee View Post
    Had the Fish!
    Tight AR5E


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    If you take the price of a meal, divide it by four, you should get roughly what it costs in terms of the materials to prepare it.

    There is little money to be made in flogging liquor so most pubs are now obliged to have a food offer if they want to remain in business.

    Not forgetting the VAT man as Jack points out, but a pub also has to pay business rates, a not insubstantial amount of money these days.

    Throw in the NI and now pension contributions for their staff, the difficulty in finding anyone to work in a commercial kitchen these days, and you get a picture of why so many pubs are disappearing.

    The margins on coffee and tea etc are of course very high, but then you need to consider the sheer number of moves it takes to generate the daily 500-600 quids worth of take just to stay in business.

    It's a sorry state of affairs but such is the way of things these days, with nearly every industry experiencing a contraction because of changing consumer tastes or technological advancement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uwork4menow View Post
    If you take the price of a meal, divide it by four, you should get roughly what it costs in terms of the materials to prepare it.

    There is little money to be made in flogging liquor so most pubs are now obliged to have a food offer if they want to remain in business.

    Not forgetting the VAT man as Jack points out, but a pub also has to pay business rates, a not insubstantial amount of money these days.

    Throw in the NI and now pension contributions for their staff, the difficulty in finding anyone to work in a commercial kitchen these days, and you get a picture of why so many pubs are disappearing.

    The margins on coffee and tea etc are of course very high, but then you need to consider the sheer number of moves it takes to generate the daily 500-600 quids worth of take just to stay in business.

    It's a sorry state of affairs but such is the way of things these days, with nearly every industry experiencing a contraction because of changing consumer tastes or technological advancement.
    Of course ignoring the 2 and a half years it took to finance and produce the animal that provided the meat!

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    Quote Originally Posted by J B View Post
    Tight AR5E

    Humph......... I thought you were a friend!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gee View Post
    Humph......... I thought you were a friend!


    Going back on topic ....
    My Best Man runs http://www.goldstonehall.com/
    I had a long discussion with him about the price of a meal out in a 'quality' restaurant.
    He likened it to dairying - good chefs are very hard to come by and thus demand a high premium wage (like a good herdsman) and that was his justification for the high prices.
    There are plenty of 'chain' restaurants where all the chef does is open packet A and put it in microwave and or oven for the time stated on the pack, he tips it on the plate and hey presto, he's a 'chef'!
    I 'proper' chef firstly constructs the menu, sources the fresh quality goods, then cooks them to perfection thus demanding a premium price.
    Whether you agree with him or not, he runs a successful business so can't really argue.

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    Re: Meal out last night

    If a pub/restaurant is not selling the stuff for at least 4 times what the ingredients cost, they are unlikely to make any money in the job, it is that simple. Less than 1 in 5 new food type businesses survive more than 3 years.

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    Re: Meal out last night

    Just sold the tail end of this years steers.......one or two fell below 3 a kg........that would be eight and a half kg to pay for 8oz of salty beef.
    One of the two prices is out of kilter!

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    Re: Meal out last night

    Quote Originally Posted by Gee View Post
    Just sold the tail end of this years steers.......one or two fell below 3 a kg........that would be eight and a half kg to pay for 8oz of salty beef.
    One of the two prices is out of kilter!
    Is that 3 "live weight"? "slaughtered w/ hide-on"? "fully dressed"? There is a lot of waste or "low value" meat between the 3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ironhead View Post
    Is that 3 "live weight"? "slaughtered w/ hide-on"? "fully dressed"? There is a lot of waste or "low value" meat between the 3.
    Slaughtered hanging up.

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