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    Looks like it's shaping up to be another first class job. Must admit I wouldn't have the patience to restore a Duncan cab though as I always thought they were one of the ugliest things ever made. Still better than getting wet though I suppose and sat inside you're the only one who can't see it.
    Out of interest how do you redrill the holes in bits like the stabiliser brackets after you have built them up with weld?
    thanks maico490 , ha ha i know what you mean but with our climate here on the north west coast of Ireland you need some sort of protection from the elements and this tractor is going back into service as a working tractor so i think the owner will be very grateful for the cab . we have a large pillar drill here that we can re-bore any holes that need doing , if that fails we are not far from an engineering shop that my brother used to work for and he has access to there large punch which can punch holes in metal up to 4" thick !

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    evening all its update time again , and yeah you guessed it wire brushing again !!! ah its all good , i got the cab well finished and all the mounting brackets and i got them soaking in " metal prep " overnight to seal up the fresh metal . pictures .











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    the brother was at the doors and also pressing out the old cab mountings from the brackets , i have a new set got for them once painted .








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    while he was at that and to get a break from grinding all day i got stuck into cleaning and re-fitting the front thermostat housing with new gaskets .












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    i noticed when the tractor came in first that there was leak at the back of the engine high up , so we have changed the rocker cover gasket for a new one and i also decided to take off the inspection plate and the rev counter drive housing to replace the gaskets on them as well just to cover all bases .












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    you can really see the " metal prep " taking hold here after only an hour .




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    then i took out the miles per hour worm drive from inside the gearbox as the short cable is snapped inside of it and im searching frantically to get a new one from somewhere or else the mph wont work , ive included a few scale pictures to show you the size , i wonder if anyone knows if these cable can be repaired successfully ??










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    and finally for tonight i started to strip the front window " fold out " frame , we will have to try to source new screw type locks as the old ones are no longer available .





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    How about one of these- http://v2.gb.sparex.com/ItemDetails/...emNumber=65736


    They go in the little angle drive unit on 1000 series fords after they changed from the dynamo with its end drive for the tacho to alternators. I bet the square part of the cable will be a standard size, its just if its long enough for what you want?
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    How about one of these- http://v2.gb.sparex.com/ItemDetails/...emNumber=65736


    They go in the little angle drive unit on 1000 series fords after they changed from the dynamo with its end drive for the tacho to alternators. I bet the square part of the cable will be a standard size, its just if its long enough for what you want?
    wow that's very similar for sure , i will try mackeys tomorrow and give them this part number and see what they can come up with , thanks a million for that , big help

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    evening all , its another update on the wee Massey and guess what ?? yep " wire brushing " again !! ah i musnt grumble sure its good to be at something ,

    on a side note i dont know if any of you get a chance to watch much telly but i sat down to watch a bit last night with the missus and she put on " living with lucy " this week she was staying with Brendan grace and long story short he brought her to Michael Hoey's vast tractor collection / museum in lusk co.dublin ,

    wow it was a real pleasure to look at and i made the wife record and save it so that i could look at it again some day ,
    anyway enough raving from me about tractors here is today's bit of progress , i was at the wings giving them a good ould clean up , getting them ready for the brother to start cutting out the rot and welding in new bits .











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    not much to see really , the wire brushing is very slow and tedious even though im using three different types of grinder and brush set up , i give the larger areas a good rub with the big 9" and a decent size Jefferson " knot twist " wire brush head on it but after a couple of hours on that beast it would pull the fecking back out of ya ,
    then i switch to two smaller 4" fellas one with a standard enough wire brush head ( you can see it lurking in the background of some of the pictures ) and then i have a 6" one on another grinder that is very narrow and great for getting into corners and stuff ,
    bit of a dangerous yoke if she kicks back though , caught me yesterday unawares and kicked back and got caught up in me jacket and wrapped round then got stuck then shorted out and tripped out all the electric in the shed !! luckily enough i had plenty of layers on and she didn't get to skin layer , i did have my jacket zipped up as well but its flittered now and fit for the bin or the dog !!!!!!!

    anyway im at it again writing a novel here about nothing ,

    so i wanted to try a bit of an experiment on the little drive cable that i showed you in some of the pictures from my post on Saturday ,

    i came up with the brain fart of making a sleeve using a bit of old diesel pipe and filling it with chemical metal ( massive stuff by the way ) then shoving the broken cable in each end and waiting till the chemical metal went off and hey presto it worked like a dream ,
    one problem though the fecking cable has to run through a shaft going through the side of the tractor and its only slightly larger than the cable is itself so it wouldn't work ,

    ah it was good while it lasted , so i had to go with the original plan and package it up and ship it to " speedy cable " in Swansea and they are going to to try and replicate it , finger crossed , anyway pictures .




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    Re: MASSEY FERGUSON 135 ( MF 20 INDUSTRIAL ) FULL RESTO .

    so guys the brother was at the other mudguard today , he didn't do as good a job as me wire brushing it yet ( ahem ahem ) but hes more interested in getting the rot cut out for now , anyway here are a few pictures that he took and sent to me this evening .







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    and the brothers contribution of pictures for today . i will take a blast of photos when i get out to the workshop tomorrow , promise






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    Re: MASSEY FERGUSON 135 ( MF 20 INDUSTRIAL ) FULL RESTO .

    morning everyone , had a late finish last night and photo bucket was playing up on me so im only getting to post up some pictures now ,
    anyway first things first ,
    i got some new seals for the P.T.O shaft and also a new oil seal for the rev counter drive so i set to replacing these .











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    so after i had that done it was time for a bit of a " welding " marathon with me cutting out the rot and cutting and shaping the new metal while he cleaned and prepped the old surface and tacked in the new piece , its slow and tedious work but you have to take your time for fear of warping the old steel due to excess heat , so it was a case of a spot here and a spot there and continue the process for every little bit ,

    despite the fact that we have a good mig we still ran the risk of burning holes in the metal ( as i found out when he went for a cup of tea and i thought " ah that looks easy ill just weld away myself " !!!! bad move ) .

    anyway i took a blast of photos as promised so be prepared for a barrage of yellow steel that might not make too much sense but hopefully you will grasp what im trying to relay in the pictures , the hardest part to do was the inner stay brackets as these are made up of three layers of steel and of course the rot had eaten through most of the layers so all had to be replaced , anyway pictures .











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    now the owner bought these wings from someone in the uk if im not mistaken and i guess the chap was in a hurry to remove them from whatever tractor they were on because there was no heed payed to how they were removed or by what method , we had to fill all the angle grinder holes and marks that were left with weld and i will grind them all back smooth on Monday , also there was a vast amount of holes drilled in almost every part of the wings for some reason so these had to be filled and ground down also , i know some of you may be thinking " whats the point , bin these and just get new ones " but the owner is a purist and genuine wings are a must especially as a mate to the Duncan cab that will be fitted so all this work will be worth it when it comes to fitting everything back together .











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    and the last three photos for todays update , we had to fold a piece of metal to suit the inner braces but because it has four folds we had to weld the last strip on to make the shape , tricky part was getting the angle the same as the original brace so that it lined up properly i also cut a new slot for the wiring to travel through to match the other side so when it is all painted up you will never know the difference , i know it all looks a bit rough at the minute but when i get at it with the grinder and flap disc and get it all prepped ready for paint it will look good ( hopefully ) !!!!




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    now the owner bought these wings from someone in the uk if im not mistaken and i guess the chap was in a hurry to remove them from whatever tractor they were on because there was no heed payed to how they were removed or by what method , we had to fill all the angle grinder holes and marks that were left with weld and i will grind them all back smooth on Monday , also there was a vast amount of holes drilled in almost every part of the wings for some reason so these had to be filled and ground down also , i know some of you may be thinking " whats the point , bin these and just get new ones " but the owner is a purist and genuine wings are a must especially as a mate to the Duncan cab that will be fitted so all this work will be worth it when it comes to fitting everything back together .










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    ha ha yeah mate i know what you mean , but you know what they say " the customer is always right " !!!!

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    evening everyone , im back with a long awaited update , both myself and the brother were having the same internet ( Vodafone ) issues all week , only got it sorted today , faulty line or something , anyway ive a few more pictures of the final bit of welding on the remaining wing starting with these .




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    so then it was time to tackle the large top piece , he welded in a temporary kind of a scaffolding support underneath to stop her flexing and warping when he started to weld in the new piece , few more pictures , hope you like em .












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    the idea of the holes drilled into the top of the new section is to act as " spot welds " on to the braces underneath , he will weld these up and grind em off and you will never see em but she will be nearly as good as the first day out of the factory !!

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    just these few little scittery bits to finish her off and she is ready for some serious grinding and cleaning and then prepping for paint





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    hi again its time for another " Saturday " update , so the welding is complete on the wings so i took to removing the rest of the paint and grinding down all the welds , i was using a kind of a scouring pad / disc ( not sure of the correct name , see picture ) on the 4" grinder , leaves a lovely finish , we had the blow lamp out then to heat and batter out any dents that were in the wings .











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    while i was at the wings the brother was flat out on the doors , i got new 1" x 4mm strapping to make up the inside strengthening strip which was well rotten on both doors , he also cut out the new bits of 3mm plate to patch up the bottoms of the door skin .











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    Re: MASSEY FERGUSON 135 ( MF 20 INDUSTRIAL ) FULL RESTO .

    now i took a mad notion and decided to line up the wings with the cab as a kind of a mock up and the brother brought over one of the freshly welded doors to see how it would hang on the cab , now bear in mind these doors were sourced separate to the cab a few years back , well ill let the pictures do the talking for now !!!!










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