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  1. #31
    v12cat
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    Re: Concrete railway sleepers

    Quote Originally Posted by h200gt View Post
    Anyone used them between H sections to make a concrete wall?

    Need to make a bay to hold manure and thought of sinking in H sections and sliding them in between.
    Assuming my codes are right, the best for this are either E1, E4 or F7. They all have bolt on hardware. They are also slightly shallower (about 6" ish) than the normal 8" ish sleeper, and have less of a recess than some.

    Bearing in mind that the E's are about 102" and the F7's are 99". Roughly 99" being the most common sleeper length. They're not easy to cut to length!!

    The ones in the video above are F7's.

  2. #32
    Newholland
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    Re: Concrete railway sleepers

    Good Afternoon!

    So.....what is the verdict on concrete sleeper tracks??? - use for cows and tractors - yes or no and anybody an idea of cost per meter including sleepers, digger time from start to finish

    and what are people putting underneath the sleepers please?


    Thankyou.

  3. #33
    v12cat
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    Re: Concrete railway sleepers

    Quote Originally Posted by Newholland View Post
    Good Afternoon!

    So.....what is the verdict on concrete sleeper tracks???
    Laid somewhere between a quarter and a third of a million. Vast majority repeat business. Hardcore grazing men swear by them.

    use for cows and tractors - yes or no
    Laid them for both. Some have a couple on the side for tractors. 2.5m is quite narrow, especially if it isn't straight, or the drivers aren't good. A couple on the side is a waste of time for cows. They won't walk on them. Over 350ish cows and two sleepers wide is needed for decent cow flow.

    anybody an idea of cost per meter including sleepers, digger time from start to finish
    Sleeper cost depends on your location and distance from source. ~4.50 upwards each.

    Digger time depends on prep time and how fast the operator can lay them.

    and what are people putting underneath the sleepers please?
    Ideally nothing, certainly if it's just for cows. For heavy machine traffic some support might be needed in wet areas. Anything hard really, shale, sandstone, limestone, hardcore.


    DO NOT sink them into the ground for cow tracks. They will not stay clean.

  4. #34
    stonefarmer
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    Re: Concrete railway sleepers

    Quote Originally Posted by Newholland View Post
    Good Afternoon!

    So.....what is the verdict on concrete sleeper tracks??? - use for cows and tractors - yes or no and anybody an idea of cost per meter including sleepers, digger time from start to finish

    and what are people putting underneath the sleepers please?


    Thankyou.
    Sleepers will set you back approx 3 plus haulage,so typically coming on farm at 5-6. Four (ish) sleepers per m so 20-24 per m run in sleepers.

    Laid several thousand last summer with a 360 that was already on farm for another job, looking through the invoices it worked out at approx 2.50 per m run in terms of preperation and laying, based on an operator cost of 30/hr. BUT there was also myself and a mate with two telehandlers turning sleepers over and keeping the 360 supplied at all times, 10 hrs a day between milkings. So if you include fuel, wear and tear etc you are easily looking at 30 per m run for a 2.4m wide track, even with family labour

    BUT they will be the cheapest option in the long term I'm sure. Wasted a lot of money messing about with quarry dust tracks that have not stood the test of time................

  5. #35
    Newholland
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    Re: Concrete railway sleepers

    Thanks for the update.

    Really need to be able to run a tractor up and down as well in a perfect world.
    - so should we therefore be scraping top soil back to hopefully get a more solid base
    or
    -blinding over with stone or geotextile material first and then sleepers on top?

    - guess the cost starts to go through the roof, but last thing we need is a load of uneven sleep edges in 10 years time!

  6. #36
    stonefarmer
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    Re: Concrete railway sleepers

    Quote Originally Posted by Newholland View Post
    Thanks for the update.

    Really need to be able to run a tractor up and down as well in a perfect world.
    I would try and avoid that personally, and limit vehicle movements to the quad bike. Tractors etc can soon drag a lot of small stones onto the track, and we all know where they end up eventually

    Btw the prices I quoted per m do not include any fencing.

  7. #37
    extremed
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    Re: Concrete railway sleepers

    where is the best place to buy the sleepers from? have heard it might be possible to get them direct off the railway is this correct? thanks

  8. #38
    Mayo
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    Re: Concrete railway sleepers

    I would keep all vehicles heavier than a quad bike off a cow track no matter what. You know what a gang of silage trailers going like hell can do to the most perfect track.

  9. #39
    J_B
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    Re: Concrete railway sleepers

    Quote Originally Posted by extremed View Post
    where is the best place to buy the sleepers from? have heard it might be possible to get them direct off the railway is this correct? thanks
    Yea, but make sure there are no trains coming! :lolk:

  10. #40
    v12cat
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    Re: Concrete railway sleepers

    Quote Originally Posted by extremed View Post
    where is the best place to buy the sleepers from? have heard it might be possible to get them direct off the railway is this correct? thanks
    What area are you in?

  11. #41
    extremed
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    Re: Concrete railway sleepers

    North Lancashire

  12. #42
    Nearly
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    Re: Concrete railway sleepers

    took these last week.

    ;


  13. #43
    J_B
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    Re: Concrete railway sleepers

    Quote Originally Posted by extremed View Post
    North Lancashire
    Have you asked these folks?

    http://www.arrichards.co.uk/Headings/News/index.html

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