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    Did you start it after filling with oil to refill the filters and then redip? Were the lift arms up or down when you drained it? Up and the internal lift cylinder and the assistor rams would still be full of old oil.Maybe surprising what the filters and rams would hold along with the residual left in the trumpets and gearbox.It would hold 60l from dry to full on the stick.Used to get three drums into my old 40 series.

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    Haven't started it yet. Just put in 2 drums and pulled the dip stick and showed half up the mark. Haven't got back to it again but don't think the lift rams and the filters will hold 20 litres. They arm fully down. I'm just worried I haven't drained her right and now poured in good oil on the old stuff. Not that the old stuff was all that bad but it'll be nagging in the back of my head that she didn't get a good service.
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    Re: Ford New Holland 8340 SLE help thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Quattromike View Post
    Haven't started it yet. Just put in 2 drums and pulled the dip stick and showed half up the mark. Haven't got back to it again but don't think the lift rams and the filters will hold 20 litres. They arm fully down. I'm just worried I haven't drained her right and now poured in good oil on the old stuff. Not that the old stuff was all that bad but it'll be nagging in the back of my head that she didn't get a good service.
    A lot of stuff has fill capacities based on a dry fill, ie factory fill or after its been totally apart and everything is drained. its always annoying when you see drain/sump plugs that are obviously never going to drain the last bit out where you know there will be all the stuff that has collected.

    If its any consolation, I be what you have done is more than many get
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    Hi, does anybody know the wiring pins to access the diagnostic menu on the 40series?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 40serieslover View Post
    Hi, does anybody know the wiring pins to access the diagnostic menu on the 40series?
    There is a floating plug adjacent to the fuse and relay box. I have not done it myself, but you need an on/off switch to access the codes. You do need to proceed with care armed with the codes. I understand that it possible to cause problems that may require main dealer assistance. I think agrimax will know more.

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    I purposely didn't go there,when I had mine,for that reason Pete.Transmission problems cost me enough over 7 years without having to get a dealer involved!! Think it was the especially the H8 menu that you had to be careful off!
    Just reading from another forum posting from some time ago which suggests the two wires nearest the centre of the diagnostics plug are the ones required. It goes on to says there's a small rectangular locating pin in the centre.If you turn the plug so that the rectangle is on it's side,it's the wires/pins top and bottom of the rectangle. Hope that makes sense..........!

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    Hello all, just joined the forum today but been a lurker for awhile. I'm from Saskatchewan Canada, we have a 1996 5640 Powerstar SLE and the power shift has been giving us grief. There aren't a lot of these tractors around here so at the dealer level not much help. For quite some time if the tractor sits awhile when you fire it up it requires C3-C4 clutch calibration as it flashes a code and clutch pedal had to be let out right to the end resulting in a very harsh engagement.
    We use this tractor at harvest on a PTO auger and as you can imagine its very unsafe when moving from bin to bin. Not to mention the inconvenience of having to go through all the calibration steps at a very busy time of year. It rarely fails to calibrate the first time every time it just takes time to do.
    I've skimmed through nearly every post in this thread but none seem to have this exact symptom. I know there is a wealth of knowledge of these tractors on this forum so going into our busy time of year hoping someone can shed some light.
    Thanks in advance from a Canadian farmer!

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    Just bringing this back to light of day. Harvest here in western Canada has been on hold for a couple weeks due to continual rains.
    Been checking to see if anyone had replied, surprised nobody has any ideas.
    Inevitably going to need the old girl soon, not looking forward to switching out bins with it.....
    Anybody?????

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    Re: Ford New Holland 8340 SLE help thread

    I am afraid that although a user I am no expert. I do wonder if you have one of the electrical components faulty. Have you been able to carry out the more complicated calibration with the switch plugged into lower dash?

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    Any chance you are getting E32 code displayed on the dash? This is ''keep alive memory failure''. Sounds like it's not retaining the clutch calibration memory. There's supposedly a lithium type battery in the ECU for the Kam, but nobody seems to be able to confirm this. It may be that the memory is stored in a chip and perhaps it's at fault but you'd normally have that E32 code. Worth checking fuse no.20 which is third down from top left in the fuse box. Kam fuse. Other than that, possibly depending on age, there should be a large round multi-plug above the battery or thereabouts. Unplug it, clean the pins with contact cleaner and reattach and see if it helps. Any other transmission connectors too..... Unplug, spray and reattach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by agrimax View Post
    Any chance you are getting E32 code displayed on the dash? This is ''keep alive memory failure''. Sounds like it's not retaining the clutch calibration memory. There's supposedly a lithium type battery in the ECU for the Kam, but nobody seems to be able to confirm this. It may be that the memory is stored in a chip and perhaps it's at fault but you'd normally have that E32 code. Worth checking fuse no.20 which is third down from top left in the fuse box. Kam fuse. Other than that, possibly depending on age, there should be a large round multi-plug above the battery or thereabouts. Unplug it, clean the pins with contact cleaner and reattach and see if it helps. Any other transmission connectors too..... Unplug, spray and reattach.
    That is exactly what it seems like to me. Tractor will work six hours mowing after running all calibrations and work flawlessly. Shut it off for a couple days and BOOM back to square one. Summer months its not relied on other than to mow every couple weeks so its not a big thing to calibrate when needed. Come harvest running PTO auger ten or fourteen times a day then having to calibrate if its been shut off too long gets old real fast! I will check all suggestions for the time it will take could save me lots of aggravation!
    thanks for the replies fellas I'll keep the thread up to date with my findings!

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    Re: Ford New Holland 8340 SLE help thread

    Would anybody know why my 7840 won't hold the memory in the ecu? Just keep getting code "e32" on start up.
    Thanks

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    Presumably you have read post 430 above? That would rule out fuse 20 if you've checked it...........Other than that,I think you could need another ecu to try.

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    Re: Ford New Holland 8340 SLE help thread

    Guys,

    What oil are we using in the back end of a 7840 SLE?

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    Re: Ford New Holland 8340 SLE help thread

    MultiG

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    Any UTTO 10w30 or 10w40. Morris Liquimatic JFD,Maxol Multitorc or Maxol Ultrafarm for eg.

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    Re: Ford New Holland 8340 SLE help thread

    Right men, with all other problems sorted on my 78 one still remains!! The tractor will not do the Fil time calibration, it's giving a code saying 'fill time to long' any help from anyone would be greatly appreciated! Thanks

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    Re: Ford New Holland 8340 SLE help thread

    I'm having issues with the shuttle shift on my '98 8340 SLE, always shifts to forward fine but reverse likes to grind a lot sometimes. can take multiple times to get reverse engaged, is there a way to calibrate the clutch pedal itself? feels like it's essentially not clutching, you know, gears are still spinning and hence it not shifting to reverse.

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    Re: Ford New Holland 8340 SLE help thread

    Your F/R synchro hub needs replaced.

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    well that's not fun. need the tractor everyday...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaskFarmer View Post
    I'm having issues with the shuttle shift on my '98 8340 SLE, always shifts to forward fine but reverse likes to grind a lot sometimes. can take multiple times to get reverse engaged, is there a way to calibrate the clutch pedal itself? feels like it's essentially not clutching, you know, gears are still spinning and hence it not shifting to reverse.
    As stated in earlier threads,remove floor mat,tin cover you can then check f/r cable, socket bolt's may be loose, if so remove and slide flange back and check if bent or even the lip on the cable sleeve may be cracked or broken both these items are available from dealer, if flange is bent can be straightened in vice, obtain another flange and longer socket bolt's so as to use two flanges worth doing on other cable as well,clean bolt's and hole's with brake cleaner if you can, blow out with air,use blue loctite on thread's and refit bolts, adjust the sleeve by turning on cable [after slackening locknut 1/4 turn at time until you can get f/r ok then tighten bolts if this doe's not cure problem then f/r synchro is worn if zf type 2.5k if graziano type cheaper they wear because of fords idea of using nylon or some type of plastic thrust washers either side of synchro when they wear the synchro assembly moves before the synchro, this job can be done without removing the whole gearbox but only attempt if you
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    I checked the cable, was a little loose, but not enough to be the whole problem. it's shifting enough back and forth for the detent/sensor. I'll probably have to get the tractor split and replace the synchro. Dealer said there's an updated shaft and synchro but together those two parts alone are over $2600.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaskFarmer View Post
    I checked the cable, was a little loose, but not enough to be the whole problem. it's shifting enough back and forth for the detent/sensor. I'll probably have to get the tractor split and replace the synchro. Dealer said there's an updated shaft and synchro but together those two parts alone are over $2600.
    i far as i am aware their bis no update's maybe he is referring to the gratziano that if used has to have several other part's to convert and i don't think it's as good as the zf one Italian v German a spurious synchro can be had in place of the zf a lot cheaper but i have not used one so cannot comment do your parts quote include the top hat seals and o-rings and washers and gsk's and don't forget when split to get torsion plate checked on the flywheel as these do wear [spring's get worn and rattle] had one of these go and it stopped driving..

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    Re: Ford New Holland 8340 SLE help thread

    Your grammar and spelling is hard to read.

    Wish I could add an image on here, but there was a thing they sent out.

    "The lubrication holes on the shaft have been revised to aid lubrication. The synchronizer has also been revised to overcome premature failure."

    No proper date, but kinda thinking this may have been during production, when they did switch synchros as it says "Effective from serial #078017B. Date Code 7G10"

    I'll get it done when I can, and maybe have them fix a few other things that need addressing. I like this tractor but doing 800+ hrs a year is taking it's toll some.

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    It's not my grammar, one has to remember keyboard's must have been invented for young girl's finger's, the slightest touch of an adjoining key, look up and find a word not spelt correctly,as for the mod's i don't remember any bulletin's on the shaft coming out, plenty of other's, i remember the c1-c2 clutch pack casing had been strengthened as some had split,i have worked on the 40's since released and did load's of mod's on the 12x12 so called dual power which was a dodgy tractor to drive at time's unless in the middle of a field with no one around! and it was not until larger pipe's were fitted to the transmission did it get cured, i would be interested to see how some third world countries are able to repair the 16x16 transmission or even more modern one's very much like car;s of today i come from an era of point's and condenser,sidevalves,synchromesh only on 2,3,and 4 gear's in a four speed box, double de-clutching on a crash box,carburettor's,thermo-syphon cooling system's,rod or cable brake's, the list goes on best of luck getting you box repaired..............

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    If everything else is working ok,I'd be looking at replacing the synchroniser,perhaps thrust washers if required,the lube tube seals and front plate seals and gaskets. The synchroniser can be got here in the UK for around 400(Sparex maybe around 850 and may well be better quality or could be be identical to the cheaper one!). It'll not be a ZF one(can be had for around 1500) as the tractor being 98 is a quadmod.

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