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  1. #91
    mawleymoos
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    hi all! any more news on fit review? reading the farmers gaurdian, I see that endurance is stating, that the wind review will not change till oct! is this correct or just marketing?

  2. #92
    BOB1
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    Quote Originally Posted by mawleymoos View Post
    hi all! any more news on fit review? reading the farmers gaurdian, I see that endurance is stating, that the wind review will not change till oct! is this correct or just marketing?
    No That is correct

  3. #93
    tom
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    Yes and no; the phase 2 consultation recommends that the rates remain unchanged until October but it is only a recommendation and as I understand it parliament has to actively approve a derogation before March to allow this to happen.

    I seriously hope they do as Iíve just put in a planning application - but at least I can say to the objectors that if it is not up and working before October there is no financial incentive to keep below 15kw as anything up to 100kw gets paid at the same rate

  4. #94
    Penmoel
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    RGSP< i think you must have good crystal ball some where,? both these quotes are from November 17th last year


    Quote Originally Posted by RGSP View Post
    I think that's about right. Five weeks ago, before the December FIT reduction was announced, you could get a 4kW system installed in the Cambridge area for just under £10,000. I happen to know some of the people doing the installing, and that still gave a reasonable return for the installer. Prices have blipped upwards as people try to get in before the FIT reduction, but I bet they'll be down to £8,000 all-in for a 4kW installation by about next Easter.
    Offerred a system on Friday could be installed by March 3rd for £8,450


    Quote Originally Posted by RGSP View Post
    I will be amazed if you get a sensible answer at all quickly. My spies tell me that the Dep.t of Energy is in turmoil at the moment, with the long knives out for Chris Huhne, but a week is a long time in politics...
    Did you see him speeding then?

    By the way what will the exchange rate be for the Euro come september 2012??

  5. #95
    RGSP
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penmoel View Post
    RGSP< i think you must have good crystal ball some where,? both these quotes are from November 17th last year




    Offerred a system on Friday could be installed by March 3rd for £8,450




    Did you see him speeding then?

    By the way what will the exchange rate be for the Euro come september 2012??
    Seeing where solar prices are going in few months time is not that difficult: just extrapolate from what's happened in the last few months, bearing in mind the technology behind it (which is my specialist thing).

    On Chris Huhne, I just heard from people who visit Westminster that he'd upset a great many people, and I had no idea what would trip him up, but was fairly sure something would be found.

    Crystal ball doesn't do exchange rates. Sorry!

  6. #96
    davidroberts30
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  7. #97
    BigAndy
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidroberts30 View Post
    Very interesting stance by the government, hopefully as suggested it is merely a means of restricting the solar market and they will withdraw the appeal in a few weeks. Does little to build confidence to invest in renewable projects when they can do this.

  8. #98
    tom
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    There was an excellent presentation at NFU conference by the woman from DECC in charge of the FIT consultation (whose name I can't remember and not on the 'watch again' bit of NFU website yet).

    When she explained their thinking it makes a lot more sense but also seemed very open-minded about making changes if better ideas come forward.

  9. #99
    pig fighter
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigAndy View Post
    Very interesting stance by the government, hopefully as suggested it is merely a means of restricting the solar market and they will withdraw the appeal in a few weeks. Does little to build confidence to invest in renewable projects when they can do this.
    The Government obviously don't like this and everyone is agreeing the scheme is unsustainable....there is no money to pay for it...are folk not learning from the bankers mess up? If the Government lose this on legal technicalities then watch out for a wind tarrif tax in the next Budget. Chancellors are always good at giving with one hand and taking back with the other.

  10. #100
    Crofter wifey
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    Quote Originally Posted by pig fighter View Post
    The Government obviously don't like this and everyone is agreeing the scheme is unsustainable....there is no money to pay for it...are folk not learning from the bankers mess up? If the Government lose this on legal technicalities then watch out for a wind tarrif tax in the next Budget. Chancellors are always good at giving with one hand and taking back with the other.
    that sounds very likely. Get the turbines up and making profits, then make it so they have to work for the government . Like everything else.

  11. #101
    tom
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    I doubt there will be a specific tax (might cost more to administer then collect) but in the Renewable Energy session at NFU conference I understand a member of the legal team said they were fighting off a challenge somewhere from a council that thought if a field was producing more electricity than food it should be subject to business rates than having agricultural exemption.

    Sorry to be a bit vague but the microphones werenít working and I couldnít quite hear, Iím hoping to get another look if they put it on line but itís not there yet just the speakers slides
    (apologies to Rachel Solomon Williams for forgetting her name earlier ).

  12. #102
    fred
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    Where are we with the fits on medium wind now, are we still waiting for the final review, will this be the final review for a while.

  13. #103
    davidroberts30
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    So it seems my gamble of installing a 4kw solar on my house at the end of feb has paid off
    lower install cost and higher tarrif rate

  14. #104
    marsh_bor
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    Had a salesman round today 4kw for 6500 now didn't even know what fit was before today, seems like I'm two years out of date, have a new south facing roof, 140' x 25' but only single phase supply. Is the 6500 a fair price.

  15. #105
    RGSP
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    Quote Originally Posted by marsh_bor View Post
    Had a salesman round today 4kw for 6500 now didn't even know what fit was before today, seems like I'm two years out of date, have a new south facing roof, 140' x 25' but only single phase supply. Is the 6500 a fair price.
    Yes, at the moment, but check up on installation date guarantees, and when the FIT payment is next due to reduce. By late summer that price ought to be below £5,000, but the FIT tariff will have reduced by then, so the return on capital may be the same or a bit worse, though there's less capital tied up.

  16. #106
    marsh_bor
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    Quote Originally Posted by RGSP View Post
    Yes, at the moment, but check up on installation date guarantees, and when the FIT payment is next due to reduce. By late summer that price ought to be below £5,000, but the FIT tariff will have reduced by then, so the return on capital may be the same or a bit worse, though there's less capital tied up.
    Thanks the cut is 1/7/12 apparently with 6 week lead time on orders, so safe for a little bit, they didn't want to know about a big setup tho and any more than 4kw have to ask edf if they would agree.

    Do I need planning for 4kw on farm building I didnt ask. One thing that concerned me a little was the model was giving figures for 30deg pitch, where as mine are 15deg standard farm buildings.

  17. #107
    RGSP
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    Quote Originally Posted by marsh_bor View Post
    Thanks the cut is 1/7/12 apparently with 6 week lead time on orders, so safe for a little bit, they didn't want to know about a big setup tho and any more than 4kw have to ask edf if they would agree.

    Do I need planning for 4kw on farm building I didnt ask. One thing that concerned me a little was the model was giving figures for 30deg pitch, where as mine are 15deg standard farm buildings.
    You don't need planning permission for a domestic 4kW system, and I think it comes under permitted development for farm buildings as well.
    Don't worry about the 15 degree pitch: you only lose a few percent, and may actually gain if the roof doesn't slope directly south. This link is helpful:
    http://www.energysavingtrust.org.uk/...d-installation

  18. #108
    marsh_bor
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    Thanks good site that is, the calculator suggested 8yr payback the salesman suggested 4 Not viable really I would think.

  19. #109
    honest john
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    Quote Originally Posted by marsh_bor View Post
    Thanks good site that is, the calculator suggested 8yr payback the salesman suggested 4 Not viable really I would think.
    4Kw Pannels cost 2,000 Wholesale. Invertor 600. Scaffolding rails wiring labour. Say £1,000
    profit other costs £1,000. So £4600. My guesstimate.
    They are making plenty Dosh at your price.
    Cheers.

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