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    I voted for brexit in spite of the fact that I believed that farming would suffer. I thought it was best for the country.
    Gove has demonstrated in a big way how agriculture is going to suffer.OK he has done a very politically popular move in getting rid of large scale acreage payments, but as is usual in politics it will not be the big man who suffers, it will be the small man.
    It is no use saying that the small man is inefficient, actually many of them are highly efficient, as the other thread on this agricultural matters demonstrates. Farmers have been able to sell at below the true cost of production, merely because they diversified to survive.
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    PS I am at a loss to know how a farmer can supplement his income by planting a few trees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack_Caley View Post
    . . . snip . . .
    PS I am at a loss to know how a farmer can supplement his income by planting a few trees.
    Jack, on this side of the pond, they plant fir & pine trees, prune them for 8-10-12 years then sell them as Christmas Trees

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ironhead View Post
    Jack, on this side of the pond, they plant fir & pine trees, prune them for 8-10-12 years then sell them as Christmas Trees
    So instead of yearly income, we have income in seven years!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack_Caley View Post
    So instead of yearly income, we have income in seven years!
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    Well, if you choose the land correctly, you get an income you have some control over rather than becoming a landlord and trying to get blood from stones .

    The equipment needed for growing xmas trees is not complex or expensive. a small tractor or 4-wheeler (which you probably have on the farm anyway), a 4-5' tow-behind bush cutter, a chain saw (bush thinning saw is better) and access to a tree wrapper (generally less expensive than a new 4-wheeler). add in a few axes, machetes and branch pruners.

    land that works well is hillsides that are harder to use the larger farming equipment on, also softer ground or small plots for the same reason. Old pasture land also works pretty well too.

    except for mowing between the trees with the bush cutter (2 or 3 times a year), most of the work is performed in the spring before you can get machinery on the land (trimming) and late in the fall (mid to late November) after other harvesting activities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ironhead View Post
    Well, if you choose the land correctly, you get an income you have some control over rather than becoming a landlord and trying to get blood from stones .

    The equipment needed for growing xmas trees is not complex or expensive. a small tractor or 4-wheeler (which you probably have on the farm anyway), a 4-5' tow-behind bush cutter, a chain saw (bush thinning saw is better) and access to a tree wrapper (generally less expensive than a new 4-wheeler). add in a few axes, machetes and branch pruners.

    land that works well is hillsides that are harder to use the larger farming equipment on, also softer ground or small plots for the same reason. Old pasture land also works pretty well too.

    except for mowing between the trees with the bush cutter (2 or 3 times a year), most of the work is performed in the spring before you can get machinery on the land (trimming) and late in the fall (mid to late November) after other harvesting activities.
    Actually, I think what Mr Gove means trees that you may or may not harvest in about 60 to 100 years.
    The fact remains that the payments were industry support, carrying on from 70 years of subsidies. This has distorted the whole industry and is very difficult to escape from. Allied of course to the fact that the British farmer will be competing against the European who presumably be still receiving support.

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