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    Why do threads I have not yet read, appear to be read?

    Hi

    As the title says, threads that I haven't read appear as though they have been. i.e. the title is in regular font, not bold. Makes it difficult to use the forum as I can't tell what I have and haven't read. No chance whatsoever on me remembering, have enough trouble with what day it is!

    Is there a setting somewhere?

    It almost looks as though the system assumes you've read something that is more than a day or so old.

    I'm running Mountain Lion on a Mac and I don't get this with any other forum or link.

    Any ideas anyone?

    Cheers
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    Re: Why do threads I have not yet read, appear to be read?

    Clive,

    You know I'm not a Mac/apple fan so don't take this as read.

    This W7 laptop had a lot of cookies from the old site, clearing them all out and then letting it start afresh has cleared up my machines odd blip with whats read or not. Can you try that on your mac??

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    Re: Why do threads I have not yet read, appear to be read?

    Had the same problem.At first I thought it must start again as midnight rolls over, but it was more like 1am that it did it to me last night.Does the same as "mark forums read" but without clicking that button.

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    Re: Why do threads I have not yet read, appear to be read?

    Quote Originally Posted by Footsfitter View Post
    Clive,

    You know I'm not a Mac/apple fan so don't take this as read.

    This W7 laptop had a lot of cookies from the old site, clearing them all out and then letting it start afresh has cleared up my machines odd blip with whats read or not. Can you try that on your mac??

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    Cheers FF, I'll give it a go. I have changed the setting where you can define how many threads you want to see, and set it to "all" in stead of "forum default" (which was probably "all" anyhow). But that hasn't changed anything.

    As you suggest, I'll delete the old forums cookies, see what happens then when I can remember how to do it.

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    Re: Why do threads I have not yet read, appear to be read?

    FF, can you or anyone tell me what the cookies for the old BFF are named. Had a look and I've got loads of "farm" cookies so don't want to delete without knowing what they are.

    Just for my own memory, I can get at them through Safari Preference, Privacy.

    Thanks

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    Re: Why do threads I have not yet read, appear to be read?

    I deleted all of my cookies earlier in an attempt to cure the problem.
    My point being that it isn't a bad idea to get rid of the lot from time to time.
    That goes for browsing history and temporary internet files. In fact it often speeds the computer up.

    As long as you can remember the passwords to sign back in to places. (Chrome remembers them for me )

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    Re: Why do threads I have not yet read, appear to be read?

    On a slightly different subject - is there an option to have a better differential between the grey/blue and blue/grey as read and unread sections?

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    Re: Why do threads I have not yet read, appear to be read?

    How often do you get to the stage where certain sections have been read?
    Admittedly the place hasn't got to the stage the pre-crash site was at but new posts are appearing pretty rapidly.
    Personally I use the new posts button and rarely even notice which section the post is in.

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    Re: Why do threads I have not yet read, appear to be read?

    Quote Originally Posted by Clive Tee View Post
    FF, can you or anyone tell me what the cookies for the old BFF are named. Had a look and I've got loads of "farm" cookies so don't want to delete without knowing what they are.

    Just for my own memory, I can get at them through Safari Preference, Privacy.

    Thanks

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    in firefox they show up as farmingforum.co.uk


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    Re: Why do threads I have not yet read, appear to be read?

    Yes I've got a "farmingforum.co.uk" cookie and have deleted it, but no difference. About half the page of threads at the top of each section are shown as unread (unless I have read them), but everything thereafter is shown as read even though I haven't read them. I don't want to delete all my cookies.

    For example, in Classic Machinery, which I haven't even looked at, the first 3 topics are unread, and the rest appear as read.

    Maybe in time this will settle down. I'll keep an eye on it and try and work out what's happening.
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    Re: Why do threads I have not yet read, appear to be read?

    Got something to go on now.

    What is happening is that any topic with the last post being over an hour ago (or about that it seems) is shown as read, whether I've read it or not.

    But, also, I can see at least one reply that is dated/timed "Today 12.17 AM". But it's only 09:05 as I type!!! That may have nothing to do with it but not seen that before. Maybe the poster (a UK poster) has their time zone set incorrectly.

    PS (edited) just realised that 12:17 AM means 00:17, so ignore the last para....duh....
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    Re: Why do threads I have not yet read, appear to be read?

    Quote Originally Posted by Clive Tee View Post
    Got something to go on now.

    What is happening is that any topic with the last post being over an hour ago (or about that it seems) is shown as read, whether I've read it or not.

    But, also, I can see at least one reply that is dated/timed "Today 12.17 AM". But it's only 09:05 as I type!!! That may have nothing to do with it but not seen that before. Maybe the poster (a UK poster) has their time zone set incorrectly.

    PS (edited) just realised that 12:17 AM means 00:17, so ignore the last para....duh....
    Clive

    Just logged out of laptop which is doing same as yours clive, remembers about 1hrs worth. Logged out with laptop and back in on another PC, it immediately shows only new posts made after login, unread posts that were marked on laptop no longer are.

    I'll ask Blue to see if something needs twiddling with and be back

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    Re: Why do threads I have not yet read, appear to be read?

    Quote Originally Posted by Footsfitter View Post
    I'll ask Blue to see if something needs twiddling with and be back
    While you're there, can you ask him if he can tell the difference between blue/grey and grey/blue

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    Re: Why do threads I have not yet read, appear to be read?

    Quote Originally Posted by J B View Post
    While you're there, can you ask him if he can tell the difference between blue/grey and grey/blue
    I can but its a bit of a grey area.................................



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    Re: Why do threads I have not yet read, appear to be read?

    "New posts" cut off is very random and not even related to if they are read or not.
    Have read posts showing as unread now.

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    Re: Why do threads I have not yet read, appear to be read?

    Logged in to read posts about an hour ago and each board that I have looked at has the unread blue pointer correctly indicating all the unread posts.


    Whats anyone else getting??



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    Re: Why do threads I have not yet read, appear to be read?

    Mine seems to show unread posts that have been created since last log in regardless of wether I have read them or not.

    So if I log in at 3pm and then again at 6pm the only posts in bold are the one created between 3pm and 6pm.

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    Re: Why do threads I have not yet read, appear to be read?

    Things to be different each time I log in. Maybe to do with what fergieman says above.
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    Re: Why do threads I have not yet read, appear to be read?

    I was wondering why it only goes back a few hours? It is 6:33 pm just now and when I do New Posts, it only goes back to Last Post: Today 03:30 PM, about a page and a half of new posts. Is this the last time I logged in? The might be posts before that that I haven't read? Not sure.

    Also what does the read box mean by the thread title?

    Edit: Sorry just saw legend, red means it is Hot () thread.
    Last edited by ladycrofter; 23-02-13 at 06:37 PM. Reason: Stupid. Again.

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    Re: Why do threads I have not yet read, appear to be read?

    Quote Originally Posted by fergieman View Post
    Mine seems to show unread posts that have been created since last log in regardless of wether I have read them or not.

    So if I log in at 3pm and then again at 6pm the only posts in bold are the one created between 3pm and 6pm.
    Quote Originally Posted by Clive Tee View Post
    Things to be different each time I log in. Maybe to do with what fergieman says above.

    Same thing happening here, laptop been logged in but inactive for a while, come back to it and it is showing posts after that time as unread & before it read, even though they haven't


    Sounds like we might get somewhere now we have an idea whats happening.


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    Re: Why do threads I have not yet read, appear to be read?

    Mine is different I think. I've just been into Livestock and the top 8 or so threads are showing as unread. So I read them all, looked again and they are all showing, correctly, as read. Close my browser down, relaunch, straight back into Livestock and it's exactly the same as when I first logged in, i.e. the first 8 or so threads showing as unread, the rest shown as read!
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    Re: Why do threads I have not yet read, appear to be read?

    Might it be that different browsers affect the way it works ..?
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    Re: Why do threads I have not yet read, appear to be read?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sam_TM View Post
    Might it be that different browsers affect the way it works ..?
    now on desktop but on same IP address, but same firefox browser, anything before when I looked in earlier this morning is "read"
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    Re: Why do threads I have not yet read, appear to be read?

    I don't understand about deleting cookies by name.

    I delete cookies via internet options almost daily. Doesn't that get rid of them all?

    Clive Tee daid he didn't want to delete all of his cookies. Why not? How do you know that you havn't picked up malevelant ones?

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    Re: Why do threads I have not yet read, appear to be read?

    Deleting cookies means you have to sign in again.
    No big deal but I delete all of them on a regular basis, more like monthly than daily though.
    Deleting temporary internet files is a good idea too. They can slow down your pc, I set the limit very low on them.

    The oldest unread post I have is from 4:57pm today according to BFF. Obviously this is far from correct.
    I believe it to be a vBulletin setting that needs changing.
    The different colours for read/unread can easily be changed too.

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    Re: Why do threads I have not yet read, appear to be read?

    I am finding that if I visit the site on different devices, it doesn't recognise where I've already read. It takes me to the last unread post from that device, I think? ! Seems to be a bit random on what threads are shown unread. Perhaps same as fergieman, but complicated by the different devices?

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    Re: Why do threads I have not yet read, appear to be read?

    Clive Tee refers to identifying cookies by name. Where in the computer do you go to find them? I've never seen a list.

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    Re: Why do threads I have not yet read, appear to be read?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lazy Sod View Post
    Clive Tee refers to identifying cookies by name. Where in the computer do you go to find them? I've never seen a list.
    I'm on a Mac running Safari. In Safari, I go to Preferences, Privacy, Details, then you can filter by partial name or remove the lot if you want. Don't know about Windows but maybe it's a function of the browser?
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    Re: Why do threads I have not yet read, appear to be read?

    That explains it Clive, I'm using windows.

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    Re: Why do threads I have not yet read, appear to be read?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lazy Sod View Post
    That explains it Clive, I'm using windows.
    What browser are you using? Internet Explorer? Firefox? Chrome?


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    Clive Tee refers to identifying cookies by name. Where in the computer do you go to find them? I've never seen a list.
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