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    Extinction rebellion.

    As total arrests break the 1,000 barrier, what do y'all make of it.

    A lot of young pampered snowflakes with too much time to kill due to the majority of British industry being killed off, or an enlightened grouping with the courage to react to the impending doom that us oldies are oblivious to?

    Or (most likely!) something else?

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    Re: Extinction rebellion.

    Rather sinister, the people behind it are the same ones did that occupy protesting a few months ago.

    Behind the declared climate agenda is what amounts to anarchy and deconstruction of the current political system.
    The school strikes were backed or at least influenced by them. The aim is to provoke ever more forceful official reaction with the aim of gaining sympathy because children and 'harmless' ageing hippies support them.
    With Attenborough on state TV practically spouting the same rubbish they are on a roll.
    I notice the same people apparently in a panic about Brexit seem to think phasing out fossil fuel without viable alternatives is a good plan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wrsni View Post
    As total arrests break the 1,000 barrier, what do y'all make of it.

    A lot of young pampered snowflakes with too much time to kill due to the majority of British industry being killed off, or an enlightened grouping with the courage to react to the impending doom that us oldies are oblivious to?

    Or (most likely!) something else?
    This morning on Today programme a woman was absolutely sure climate change was the fault of capitalism, and the corporate profit motive. The guy who answered was very good I thought, in that he said a very big part of the blame lay with socialist China, India and Africa.
    I think global warming is a serious problem, but the protesters are people who get a kick out of protest, especially if they have to fly from LA to join in.
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    Global warming is an inevitable fact. It's been happening since the last ice-age. It will continue what ever we, as a species, try to do, we can't beat nature. The planet was much warmer when dinosaurs roamed than it is now and an ice-age followed that. The planet will get warmer then it will get colder just as it has several times in the past. No, maybe we are accelerating global warming but it will happen despite us.

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    The amazing thing about these privilage no nothings is that a few years ago they were all getting help to eat aned having someone wipe their arse.
    They are the most ignorant and uneducated faux oppressed little shits ever to walk Gods earth.
    Global warming my arse.
    For a start why should a 1 to 1.5C average rise in temp be a bad thing. This is before I point out the impossibility of trying to measure the average global temperature.
    They also seem to forget, bless them, that CO2 is a vital plant food and mankinds survival depends on it.
    Their beloved computer models are deeply flawed and to prove how badly flawed when random data is entered (this is a standard statistical test to prove accuracy) these models still produce the hockey stick graph.
    A lot of people are making political as well as monetary capital out of this shit.
    If all the steps were taken to try to alleviate GW it would swallow over 45% of global GDP, doing nothing would cost us 0.5%.
    What problem?
    Green energy is madness just like these twits./

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    I enjoyed listening to this chap. Thought he made a lot of sense.



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    Don't itch for something if you're not prepared to scratch for it.

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    Yep, the plastic derived boat in London, coloured Pink with chemical colouring.
    Swigging their water from Plastic bottles...wrapped up warm in their shiny wind proof coats. All made from chemically produced materials.
    Biggest bunch of two faced hypocrites to walk the face of the earth.
    Bean and Lentil Fart Fumes of course don’t seem to contribute to pollution.
    Trouble is the shady characters behind the scenes are a dam sight cleverer than the dingleberries that man the barricades.
    Take the young Swedish school girl behind the “let’s take Friday off school protest” (otherwise known as a dam good Skive) being trotted around Europe ....been to see the Pope....up to London, Michael Gove even trotted along for an audience.
    Pedalling her parents politics through a PR guru.
    All ably hyped unquestionably by the BBC news system....nearly 15 minute interview on Radio 4 this morning...repeated excerpts all day.
    This is no self creating protest.....the entire thing is very professionally organised and has been from day one and long before.
    Very similar to the current Vegan campaign.....ready made stories supplied to the media......fills the pages.
    Check out the Archers current story line.......Impoverished Ed is off delivering a van load of illegal Farm Pesticides!
    Remember a bit since, the survey of some rivers in the South of England found traces of goodness knows how many Farm Chemicals some of which were illegal.
    As if by chance the next week The Archers run a story about one of the characters transporting illegal chemicals.......
    I might be a little innocent......but where do you go to buy illegal chemicals?
    Ready made story line dished up to Archers script creators, with a promise that it will be backed up when the survey results come out.
    Cynical......me?????

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    Re: Extinction rebellion.

    up arrow2.png Good post Gee. My sentiments entirely.

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    Re: Extinction rebellion.

    They don't like having the tables turned on them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gee View Post
    Yep, the plastic derived boat in London, coloured Pink with chemical colouring.
    Swigging their water from Plastic bottles...wrapped up warm in their shiny wind proof coats. All made from chemically produced materials.
    Biggest bunch of two faced hypocrites to walk the face of the earth.
    Bean and Lentil Fart Fumes of course don’t seem to contribute to pollution.
    Trouble is the shady characters behind the scenes are a dam sight cleverer than the dingleberries that man the barricades.
    Take the young Swedish school girl behind the “let’s take Friday off school protest” (otherwise known as a dam good Skive) being trotted around Europe ....been to see the Pope....up to London, Michael Gove even trotted along for an audience.
    Pedalling her parents politics through a PR guru.
    All ably hyped unquestionably by the BBC news system....nearly 15 minute interview on Radio 4 this morning...repeated excerpts all day.
    This is no self creating protest.....the entire thing is very professionally organised and has been from day one and long before.
    Very similar to the current Vegan campaign.....ready made stories supplied to the media......fills the pages.
    Check out the Archers current story line.......Impoverished Ed is off delivering a van load of illegal Farm Pesticides!
    Remember a bit since, the survey of some rivers in the South of England found traces of goodness knows how many Farm Chemicals some of which were illegal.
    As if by chance the next week The Archers run a story about one of the characters transporting illegal chemicals.......
    I might be a little innocent......but where do you go to buy illegal chemicals?
    Ready made story line dished up to Archers script creators, with a promise that it will be backed up when the survey results come out.
    Cynical......me?????
    My daughter and myself were once interviewed for a BBC radio programme. As soon as we deviated in any small way from what could be construed as her agenda, the producer immediately stopped the interview, deleted that bit and outlined the way in which we should proceed, which was her agenda.
    The BBC always select an interviewee to reflect their opinion.
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    Whether you love or loathe the bold Ms Hopkins, she is plainly a pretty sharp lass, she absolutely fleeced those two guys. Don't think they'll pick on her or anyone she's accompanying again!

    Anyway, getting back to the subject matter itself.

    It's something which I have pretty muddled and confused views of. The planet as a whole is being polluted and stripped of it's natural resources at an increasingly accelerated pace, and while the evidence for the human contribution to climate change is at best contestable, the human contribution to the former two is beyond any doubt whatsoever. So I have no problem with the concept of making people aware of the increasing damage which our modern lifestyle is doing to our home.

    However, firstly I find it very difficult to take the views of urbanites seriously when it comes to anything environmental, and secondly, the entire protest seems to be around climate with the two main and undisputed global environmental issues disregarded completely. If they want the 'environmental' debate fine, but do it properly, no half-hearted measures and no brushing aside the uncomfortable realities.

    Lets start with air travel, estimated fuel usage globally is around 700 million litres per day, and rising rapidly. And that is purely the aviation fuel being consumed with no allowance for the fuel being burned to shift and process the fuel itself, the movement of people to and from airports related to that travel, the electricity consumption of the airports 24/7, etc, etc. And is it all necessary?..................of-course it's not. People now going on a weekend break to New York from the UK, a stag do in Prague, a couple of days in Vegas, all well and good but if you want to be serious about saving the planet, so serious that you're prepared to break the law and bully people to get your point across, then it needs to be looked at as something which we at very least need to put a much higher value on.

    Global trade equally needs a huge shake up. Ship a washing machine, microwave, toaster, kettle, whatever, half way around the world only for it to shit itself and be discarded in less than a year, then a local 'recycling' centre, and before much longer on a container back to where it started. But of-course if we weren't shipping our goods in from China, then stuff would have to be produced here, and nobody really wants to do that any more as we all go to university now and are much too important to spend a day working to actually produce something!

    I could go on and on, but suffice to say there is certainly a need for change, but from what I see so far this isn't it. The message is flawed and the people involved are clueless, in fact, I doubt that they even really care.

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    Don't forget about wood chip being shipped half way round the world, to burn instead of coal, in the name of being green.

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    Re: Extinction rebellion.

    Is it not the case that the main advocates of this movement are gullible souls who in the main are very well off middle class, under educated 30 something, no it all no nothings whose life is so empty and meaningless that they desperately need some cause to follow?
    In my youth it was ban the bomb or burn your bra.
    Perhaps instead of disrupting everyone's life they could actually do something positive and constructive?
    To me they act a bit like the child who is told not to jump in puddles, but they do, fall on their arse then scream the place down, forgetting that it may be a good idea to get out of the puddle.
    A man with a good dog could herd these cretins to wherever he wanted. Just bloody sheep but not as smart or well read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LALANS View Post
    Is it not the case that the main advocates of this movement are gullible souls who in the main are very well off middle class, under educated 30 something, no it all no nothings whose life is so empty and meaningless that they desperately need some cause to follow?
    In my youth it was ban the bomb or burn your bra.
    Perhaps instead of disrupting everyone's life they could actually do something positive and constructive?
    To me they act a bit like the child who is told not to jump in puddles, but they do, fall on their arse then scream the place down, forgetting that it may be a good idea to get out of the puddle.
    A man with a good dog could herd these cretins to wherever he wanted. Just bloody sheep but not as smart or well read.
    over educated idiots

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    Andy Warhol used to reckon that everyone would get 15 secs of fame in their life....or was it 15 minutes?
    That was in the day unless you were gifted in a particular field then fame would accidentally visit you due to circumstances.

    Via the Inter web and the Twattersphere these rodents manufacture their own tawdry fame.
    Our so called media have descended into a press release fuelled aged dinosaur.
    Their day to day needs are fed by carefully supplied campaign PR machines.

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