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    muck spreader
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    Small combine harvester

    Thinking out aloud. What would be the best small combine harvester to buy. It would need to do around 40 acre a year with a budget of 5k. The important things to me are spares availability and simplicity as I know nothing about them.

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    nashmach
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    Re: Small combine harvester

    New Holland 1500 series or else a Deutz but don't think you'd get a nice 2680 for under 5k.

    Some might say a Claas but they are not as easy to work on but parts probably better.

    Big thing is what do your local breakers specialise in?

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    Col the Ox
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    Probably a Claas Dominator 85. Still some clean examples around, and should fit into your budget. Good reliable combine.

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    New Fenman
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    I've got a nice Claas Europa bagger. Will take about a week for that acreage as it's only 7' cut. At least it will stop two of you being bored for harvest time.
    I might even be able to get you some 4 bushel hessian sacks if you are feeling strong!!

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    Hooby Farmer
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    Re: Small combine harvester

    john deere 950-955 parts next day with my dealer. good straight simple machine no bells or whistles

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    Penmoel
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    Re: Small combine harvester

    Friend of mine just bought this, would do all you need and more.
    I think it will be difficult to find a tidier example only done 1600 hours.

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...vip=true&rt=nc

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    bob k
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    Re: Small combine harvester

    http://www.agriaffaires.com/occasion...s-senator.html#


    only one I could find

    I thought the co-op will cut it for 78 euro/ha, seems cheap to me

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    muck spreader
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    Re: Small combine harvester

    Quote Originally Posted by bob k View Post
    http://www.agriaffaires.com/occasion...s-senator.html#


    only one I could find

    I thought the co-op will cut it for 78 euro/ha, seems cheap to me
    If they own a combine, ours doesn't.

    What are the main areas that wear out on one. ie what makes them only fit for scrap. I assume engines,gearboxes, axles etc don't get any major abuse.

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    bob k
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    Re: Small combine harvester

    Quote Originally Posted by muck spreader View Post
    If they own a combine, ours doesn't.

    What are the main areas that wear out on one. ie what makes them only fit for scrap. I assume engines,gearboxes, axles etc don't get any major abuse.
    Fire,the cooling on senators and dominators is reliant on keeping the rad clean. it takes very little crap to get them hot.

    To chose a cheap combine depends on the availability of s/h parts, therefore you need to find the local combine graveyard, I know 1 north of Poitiers on the N10 and another near Marthon, I am sure there are some round your way.

    Engines and gearboxes are not a great concern, check the bars in the drum are straight and not too smooth, but the main thing is does the variable speed work on the drum and the drive, bearings are easily obtained, and belts are not too bad except the one that drive the grain elevators, it's hexagonal and difficult to get non genuine and the main drive belt needs to be decent.

    However the main item to look at is the header as sometimes folk put an old header with the combine, and the problem is the same things go on them, wobble box and the casting for the retractable fingers.

    This is for Claas as I know nowt else, but if you get a sorted one there won't be too much of a problem.

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    nick
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    Re: Small combine harvester

    the only thing with old combines is metal fatigue in the frame or bodywork and shafts.usually ok for about 15/20 years before problems start to occure
    nick.......

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    Penmoel
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scooby View Post
    A Senny 60 was a Mat. Standard tarted up. Power steering, a better unloading auger, better air box. etc.

    I saw that machine on eBay and it's a credit to all it's former owners. You can tell it hasn't done much by the paint on the table auger. Of course all the usual things have to be looked at. Beater bars, walker bearings & shafts, fan, sieve box, trunking elevator, etc. But your friend has got a bargain. I used to squeeze 200 acres out of a Standard easy enough.
    To be honest he has bought over the phone unseen, as we did with ours 4 years ago. A 5-600 mile trip to see a machine of that age and value is not worthwhile sometimes you just go on instinct that machine just looks so genuine and looked after, it's worth using the money saved going to see it on transport to get it back here.

    He will have a genuine machine home here at not much over 2k, cant be bad.

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    Track Marshall
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penmoel View Post
    To be honest he has bought over the phone unseen, as we did with ours 4 years ago. A 5-600 mile trip to see a machine of that age and value is not worthwhile sometimes you just go on instinct that machine just looks so genuine and looked after, it's worth using the money saved going to see it on transport to get it back here.

    He will have a genuine machine home here at not much over 2k, cant be bad.
    This time round his instincts were right, I know the owners of this combine and I have seen the combine in the flesh, and i don't think you need to worry about the condition of it. As far as I know it was just surplus to requirements.

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    Hayman
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    I drove a 10ft Giant Matador in the wet harvests of the early 1960's. In waterlogged wheat it kept going while everything else was bogged down. A running one might be worth a lot in mid September.

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    Hooby Farmer
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    Re: Small combine harvester

    Have the price of old combines gone up?

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    Penmoel
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    [QUOTE=Scooby;969712]A Senny 60 was a Mat. Standard tarted up. Power steering, a better unloading auger, better air box. etc.

    QUOTE]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hayman View Post
    I drove a 10ft Giant Matador in the wet harvests of the early 1960's. In waterlogged wheat it kept going while everything else was bogged down. A running one might be worth a lot in mid September.

    What is the difference between a standard and a giant, if a Senator 60 is a tarted standard, is a 70 a tarted Giant??

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    Exfarmer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scooby View Post
    A Giant Mat. was a cracking machine. I was driving a Mat. Standard and then a Giant in the 60s. 1968 was a pig of a year. Finished up cutting Spring barley in November freezing cold even though I had got an overcoat on. No Roundup in those days so it had been sprayed off with either Gramoxone or Reglone. A week before it was sprayed off you couldn't tell that it was a field of corn, so much crap had grown through.

    And my old girl trundled along and got 90% of it. Biggest problem was getting it out of the tank. Not sure how the customer got it out of the trailer but they kept coming back for more.

    Happy days.
    Remember 68 too well
    Driving an open mf500
    One good thing about the year was no dust
    Like you we were combining in late November
    One morning Dad raked me out of bed at about 2 o clock
    He had just remembered there was no anti freeze in the combine and the stars were out
    Combine was right across the fields and no such thing as a Landy for us in those days
    It was freezing hard but thankfully under the sheet she had taken no harm
    We left it idling all night as we could not find one of the drains
    We had 20 acres a flat oats we never did cut

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    Hayman
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    Our Giant matador was 1963 model. The other difference between that and the Standard was the bigger and wider wheels. The earlier Claas model was the grey SF. They fitted a few of these with ousize wheels and sold them as Claas Bogmasters.

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    Exfarmer
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    Re: Small combine harvester

    Quote Originally Posted by Scooby View Post
    I remember driving an MF400 at College in 1965 (actually Warwickshire Institute of Agriculture in those days ) I thought it was the bee's knees. Nice and comfortable, operating levers on the side, clean lines, way to go (or so I thought) But they wouldn't pick it up like a Claas and remember, there were no shorteners in those days. I had a few dairy farming customers who would insist in growing Peniarth oats (very tall - lots of straw) And being dairymen they were forever throwing FYM & slurry all over the place.

    Had to cut a 10 acre field all one way once :cry: because when going to meet them the heads were on their way up the trunking before I had cut them off at the bottom.
    They were good combines in comfort terms and you could operate two levers at one time unlike the Claas
    The best thing when it got really cold was you could open the engine cover and the let warm air blow all over you
    They were not as good as the Claas in the header department
    Knife being far closer to the auger
    I can remember regularly having to cut one way did not help growing a lot of oats
    our neighbour had the first power flow on a 515
    Now that was a combine

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    Spud
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    Dwf787c, matador standard, first combine I ever drove, bit primitive in some of its controls, but went well enough. Lost it in a fire in 92 8746BT, MF 780, it's predecessor. Good little combine, shame scrap was good money in the late 80's. NH since, a really good S reg 1550s, lost that in the same fire as the Mat. Cat207t, the 1550 that replaced it, complete pile of bobbins by comparison, as was the 8070 that followed it. F plate 8070 next was a belter, here a long while, replaced by the tx36 we have now in 2005. But what next?

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    axial1680
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    Re: Small combine harvester

    We used to run a BM Volvo S950 with a 12 foot cut. A very good machine for its day, spares were getting to be a problem, then i found a man in Lancashire that broke them and ran 6 himself, it kept her going another 10 years. We now use it to clean seen. It sounds lovely and I still say its the best sounding engine ever!

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    Cowabunga
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    Quote Originally Posted by axial1680 View Post
    We used to run a BM Volvo S950 with a 12 foot cut. A very good machine for its day, spares were getting to be a problem, then i found a man in Lancashire that broke them and ran 6 himself, it kept her going another 10 years. We now use it to clean seen. It sounds lovely and I still say its the best sounding engine ever!

    We had the smaller BM Volvo. It was not the best thing ever invented. It had a chain-conveyor instead of a reciprocating grain-pan, which was OK when it went. Remember my father replacing the stone trap incorrectly and ripping out the conveyor chain. Twice. Heck of a job to repair it.

    The biggest problem was the final drive. On this model it consisted of a cast iron wheel centre with teeth cut on the inner rim and this was driven by a tiny pinion gear on the half-shaft. The cast iron centres and their gear teeth were made of liquorice and failed repeatedly on our fairly hilly land.

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    axial1680
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    Re: Small combine harvester

    I remember seeing some of the smaller models, you would think that they were built by a different firm, much lighter build etc.

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    Jungle Bill
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    Re: Small combine harvester

    A bit over budget, but maybe worth a look if it was nearer to you http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-Hollan...item231f9e75cd

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    Col the Ox
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    Of the three, i would go for the Dominator - but in fairness, i am a Claas man. The New Holland looks in good nick from the pics. Wouldn't go for a eight foot six inch cut combine no matter what it was.

    In this week's 'Farmers Weekly', G M Stephenson have go what looks to be a lovely, well maintained and looked after Claas Dominator 80, 1972/3 vintage, 13 feet header, advertised for 2,950-00.

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    Russell B
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    Quote Originally Posted by Col the Ox View Post
    Of the three, i would go for the Dominator - but in fairness, i am a Claas man. The New Holland looks in good nick from the pics. Wouldn't go for a eight foot six inch cut combine no matter what it was.

    In this week's 'Farmers Weekly', G M Stephenson have go what looks to be a lovely, well maintained and looked after Claas Dominator 80, 1972/3 vintage, 13 feet header, advertised for 2,950-00.
    I used to have an 80 dom and it was a very weak combine with 20mm shafts throughout rather than 25mm on the 96 dom that I have now.
    It also has a 'pitman' arm drive for the rear of the combine which is weak.
    The tine bars on the header are held on by plastic fittings which are prone to breaking and all bearings including the one holding the variable speed pulleys are in those crappy tin plate things.
    As the guy said that i used to get spares from 'They were a poor combine new'.

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    bob k
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    Re: Small combine harvester

    Quote Originally Posted by Col the Ox View Post
    Of the three, i would go for the Dominator - but in fairness, i am a Claas man. The New Holland looks in good nick from the pics. Wouldn't go for a eight foot six inch cut combine no matter what it was.

    In this week's 'Farmers Weekly', G M Stephenson have go what looks to be a lovely, well maintained and looked after Claas Dominator 80, 1972/3 vintage, 13 feet header, advertised for 2,950-00.


    This one.

    http://www.agriaffaires.com/occasion...inator-80.html

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    ReidyNZ
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    Re: Small combine harvester

    Quote Originally Posted by bob k View Post

    Super comfort seat

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    nashmach
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    Re: Small combine harvester

    Of these three I'd be going with the Dominator too as a combine that is laid up a few years is usually not good news in particular with belts suffering fatigue.

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    muck spreader
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    Re: Small combine harvester

    Going to look at a 1985 JD 935 combine in the next couple of days. Are they any good, anything particular to watch out for?

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