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    Quote Originally Posted by clover View Post
    I can make right good stuff for about 22 per round bale.

    so its cheaper to buy it then and keep more stock so you have a double win, more stock more profit and you forage is cheaper and on avarage better quality cus you only buy the best

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forage Trader View Post
    so its cheaper to buy it then and keep more stock so you have a double win, more stock more profit and you forage is cheaper and on avarage better quality cus you only buy the best
    yes and buy in listeria , if for sheep , be damn expensive silage then

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    Quote Originally Posted by andybk View Post
    yes and buy in listeria , if for sheep , be damn expensive silage then
    I would never buy silage for sheep, hay every time

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forage Trader View Post
    so its cheaper to buy it then and keep more stock so you have a double win, more stock more profit and you forage is cheaper and on avarage better quality cus you only buy the best
    Yes,its cheaper to buy it.But still too expensive to feed.

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    Re: Silage, Straw and Hay prices

    Quote Originally Posted by clover View Post
    I can make right good stuff for about 22 per round bale.
    Holy christ that's expensive we're only 12

  6. #216
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    Quote Originally Posted by culphim78 View Post
    Holy christ that's expensive we're only 12
    My land rental value might be dearer than yours

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    Quote Originally Posted by culphim78 View Post
    Holy christ that's expensive we're only 12
    Is that counting firtilizer, that's around 6/bale

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forage Trader View Post
    Is that counting firtilizer, that's around 6/bale
    Fert 25/ac 4cwt can 27n at 250/t av bales between 8 and 12 per acre so between 2-3 a bale fert

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    Quote Originally Posted by culphim78 View Post
    Fert 25/ac 4cwt can 27n at 250/t av bales between 8 and 12 per acre so between 2-3 a bale fert
    what about the 50 units of K it removes, you cant rob the bank and put nothing back and do you put in a rental figure

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forage Trader View Post
    How much do you reckon it cost to make your own round bale silage, would it be any cheaper than those prices
    I sold some silage in that sale to advantage but better not go on to much about how little you can make silage for or the thread may get removed again

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    Quote Originally Posted by culphim78 View Post
    Holy christ that's expensive we're only 12
    it cost best part of 12 just for mowing tedding raking baling wrap and carting comes to more than that then fert rent ect agree with 22

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    Quote Originally Posted by culphim78 View Post
    Fert 25/ac 4cwt can 27n at 250/t av bales between 8 and 12 per acre so between 2-3 a bale fert
    4cwt is 50 an acre, your fert cost is twice what you thought

  13. #223
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    6/bale, better tell him quick before he sells them

  14. #224
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    Don't have rent to pay aye my fert cost was wrong. selling silage is a mugs game only make what you need if you're not getting 10 bales to the acre of good dry silage you're wasting time and money. The cheapest way is to chop the lot into a pit that's the next project build a pit it will pay for itself within 5years

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    Quote Originally Posted by culphim78 View Post
    Don't have rent to pay aye my fert cost was wrong. selling silage is a mugs game only make what you need if you're not getting 10 bales to the acre of good dry silage you're wasting time and money. The cheapest way is to chop the lot into a pit that's the next project build a pit it will pay for itself within 5years
    We are asking for a bashing from the supermarkets on meat prices etc if we dont collectively as a (GB) farming organisation start calculating land into cost as a 1,500-8,000/acre asset which ought to be earning a return of at least what that money would be sat in a savings account

    Growing livestock intensely, away from the land on a farmstead becomes a value-added enterprise. The grass grown should be done in a profitable manner, possibly with a cereal rotation with which it maybe not quite comparable on return - stating that grass costs 12/bale maybe correct, but is it sustainable or simply sustinence?

    I think with modern farming the price debate should be confined to a secondary role, surely what would help for buying/selling would be a Wonga.com type sliding scale website which can input how much the bale weighs / seed vs old grass / 4 or 6 wraps / DM content etc etc! The inputs would create an outcome of value of the silage to the buyer and if you are creating good value silage, I expect it would gain a reasonable return for the seller!

    Just trying to think outside the box!

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    problem with pricing silage bales is some make it as a crop , but for many its a management tool , to remove surplus grass for a better after-bite and to clean pasture (that's us) .
    like food companies selling their seconds at markets , as long as we cover the cost of making that's good enough

    Some retired and redundancy types also like to play at farming with only a few animals but love to go out with their shiny new tractor and mower in summer and cut their field a few times to make 100+ bales then practically give it away in winter, would be cheaper to let them make your crop for you except they even manage to make a mess of that .

    Croppers will never compete with all above types so pricing is only relevant on local demand and weather and every year will be different .

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    Re: Silage, Straw and Hay prices

    What would a price be for straw delivered to Wiltshire be at the moment?

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    Forage Prices

    Please post forage prices here until it's made sticky topic again

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    Re: Forage Prices

    Change title to Hay, Straw, Silage prices?

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    Anyone got any round bale wheat spare must be good

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forage Trader View Post
    Anyone got any round bale wheat spare must be good
    Get your trucks up to Turriff, with the changes at the Vion Brydock operation I believe there are several thousand hesstons sitting in sheds.

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    Re: Forage Prices

    Did my mate ring you FT ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pig fighter View Post
    Get your trucks up to Turriff, with the changes at the Vion Brydock operation I believe there are several thousand hesstons sitting in sheds.
    there are also a lot of acres still to bale

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    Re: Forage Prices

    What is fodder beet making in 18t loads del'd farm? Shropshire area

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hesston4860s View Post
    Did my mate ring you FT ?
    Yes thanks, hope to load next week

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    Re: Forage Prices

    FT, will give you a ring end of the week re SB straw in my shed.

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    Re: Forage Prices

    Just paid 95 for top quality sheep hay in 3x3 squares delivered. Is this sensible. Only small load .

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    Re: Forage Prices

    Just bought 500 5ft barley stored outside but singularly for 6 a piece, he will load, why bother baling it for that? So much straw here everywhere nothing selling, thought I would use some sense and buy next years as there will be FA as things stand, lots will be chopped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Noo View Post
    FT, will give you a ring end of the week re SB straw in my shed.

    01570470541

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    How much is poor quality hay delivered to Pembrokeshire at present? (the sort of stuff I could feed to dry suckler cows next winter).

    Also, will it come down. In price if I wait til April or May to buy it.

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