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Thread: 100hp or 140hp merlo

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    pete
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    100hp or 140hp merlo

    34.7 or 40.7 ? 34.7 is 4000 cheaper relise the 40.7 is quicke but what are the other pros and cons? And what about fuel usage!? Surely a 140 hp engine will use more but how much?

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    hilly bill
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    Re: 100hp or 140hp merlo

    Depends on what your going to be doing ? lots of road work towing etc 140hp defo ! never out the farm yard 100hp will be fine, mines 100hp its ok on fuel but wouldnt want to use anymore to be fair.

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    pete
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    Re: 100hp or 140hp merlo

    Hardly out of yard! I wouldn't want a hitch to tow but thought the better hyd pump would speed the job up!

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    Courier
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    Re: 100hp or 140hp merlo

    Will it be used for fillling a silage clamp? The bigger the better.

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    dgw
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    Re: 100hp or 140hp merlo

    Not familiar with Merlos but on a general point of engine power, I would agree that if the machine is largely around the yard then 100hp would probably be more than adequate. If you have to work on some fields with banks as we do, or are likely to be towing on the road, then the higher horsepower would probably be useful. Hopefully you will get some better and more informed advice from Merlo owners.

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    x121x
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    Re: 100hp or 140hp merlo

    Quote Originally Posted by pete View Post
    Hardly out of yard! I wouldn't want a hitch to tow but thought the better hyd pump would speed the job up!
    Buy a 34.7 top. 120hp engine and bigger load sensing hydraulics same as 40.7. So it's slap bang in the middle of the two.

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    NeilO
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    Re: 100hp or 140hp merlo

    Is the 40.7 physically larger than the 34.7? Does that make a difference around your yards? I have a 32.6 Top, which is plenty big enough in some of my sheds.

    I was going to suggest looking at the Top, as it has a larger hyd pump, IIRC.

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    TexelBurger
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    Re: 100hp or 140hp merlo

    Have had both,although the 34.7 was standard and not top.The difference between the two is chalk and cheese,the 40.7 having more towing power and faster hydraulics.
    To me there is no contest ,the 40.7 wins hands down every time,but it is down to your requirements for the machine and would that justify the extra pennies or not.
    As somebody has said perhaps the 34.7 top is a good compromise.

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    Yale
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    Re: 100hp or 140hp merlo

    Quote Originally Posted by TexelBurger View Post
    Have had both,although the 34.7 was standard and not top.The difference between the two is chalk and cheese,the 40.7 having more towing power and faster hydraulics.
    To me there is no contest ,the 40.7 wins hands down every time,but it is down to your requirements for the machine and would that justify the extra pennies or not.
    As somebody has said perhaps the 34.7 top is a good compromise.
    So is the 40.7 physically bigger?

    I'd also echo the fact that on a silage clamp you cannot have too much power.

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    Beltbreaker
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    Re: 100hp or 140hp merlo

    Had a 28.7 replaced with 40.7 due to deal and oh so slow hydralics on the 28.7. 40.7 better all round plenty of power for loading/towing straw trailers (keep rad clean) Hydralics very quick and powerful. Fuel use averages just 7.2l /hr over 3300hrs 28.7 was 6.9 over same hrs. Only issues have been plastic bushes on axle (wear item) and pipes rubbing inside boom.

    There was no physical difference between the 28.7 to the 40.7 in stature so I would doubt there is a difference with the 34.7

    As someone said 34.7 with 120 and bigger pump may be a good comprimise but I would now miss larger capacity.

    Cheers BB

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    nick
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    Re: 100hp or 140hp merlo

    you can never have enough horsepower,wether tractor,truck or telehandler
    nick.........

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    pete
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    Re: 100hp or 140hp merlo

    The extra for the 40.7 isn't the issue its the diesel consumption over 10 years I'm thinking of! I bet the 34.7 top is virtually the same money as the 40.7 ! But there isn't one in stock so I've not asked about it.

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    pete
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    Re: 100hp or 140hp merlo

    Would go on pit but only to roll ! I thought it was the transmission that got hot if rad got clogged so why would the bigger engine make a difference?

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    x121x
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    Re: 100hp or 140hp merlo

    Quote Originally Posted by pete View Post
    Would go on pit but only to roll ! I thought it was the transmission that got hot if rad got clogged so why would the bigger engine make a difference?
    Have you demo'd a 40.7?

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    Courier
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    Re: 100hp or 140hp merlo

    Any Hydro working on a clamp will run cooler if MORE power is available because the transmission uses a higher "ratio" (for want of a better explanation)

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    henery
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    Re: 100hp or 140hp merlo

    A merlo in low range is a pretty good tool on a silage pit, a 40.7 can push like hell

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    Get off My Land
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    Re: 100hp or 140hp merlo

    well i have the 28.7 & driven a recent 40.7 with that Cab Suspension & 140hp motor.
    Power is king everytime.
    The Perkins in my 28.7 is fine tho.
    Both Machines are the same physical size.
    Cant see the fuel issue being that much of a Problem.
    It will use more if you boot it all the time.

    unless you think you need a 4ton lift just get the model everyone else says the 34.7top.
    That would do me fine if i changed mine.

    Would never be without a 7m reach tho....

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    Jim B
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    Re: 100hp or 140hp merlo

    Quote Originally Posted by Yale View Post
    So is the 40.7 physically bigger?
    34.7 and 40.7 are identical to look at and in size.

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    NeilO
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    Re: 100hp or 140hp merlo

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim B View Post
    34.7 and 40.7 are identical to look at and in size.
    If they are the same size/wheelbase, is the 40.7 less stable, lifting an extra 600kg to 7m?

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    Jim B
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    Re: 100hp or 140hp merlo

    Quote Originally Posted by NeilO View Post
    If they are the same size/wheelbase, is the 40.7 less stable, lifting an extra 600kg to 7m?
    I understand there is a little more extra weight hidden in the backend.

    As with any manufacturer they won't actually lift 4 tonne to 7 metres, 4 tonne is the maximum lift capacity.

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    joe soapy
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    Re: 100hp or 140hp merlo

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim B View Post
    I understand there is a little more extra weight hidden in the backend.

    As with any manufacturer they won't actually lift 4 tonne to 7 metres, 4 tonne is the maximum lift capacity.
    They should. at least our 53070 will i think, just be sure and retract boom before letting down..

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    x121x
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    Re: 100hp or 140hp merlo

    Quote Originally Posted by joe soapy View Post
    They should. at least our 53070 will i think, just be sure and retract boom before letting down..
    Your 530 wont lift 4.0ton, And anyway it'll only lift about 2.4t to full height.

    The 40.7 will lift about 3.5ton to full height. and is equally as stable as the 34.7 the only difference being the 40.7 is a tad heavier than the 34.7

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    joe soapy
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    Re: 100hp or 140hp merlo

    Quote Originally Posted by x121x View Post
    Your 530 wont lift 4.0ton, And anyway it'll only lift about 2.4t to full height.

    The 40.7 will lift about 3.5ton to full height. and is equally as stable as the 34.7 the only difference being the 40.7 is a tad heavier than the 34.7
    the clue is in the number
    5= rigid 4 wheel steer
    30=3 ton
    70=7 meters

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    Jim B
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    Re: 100hp or 140hp merlo

    Quote Originally Posted by joe soapy View Post
    the clue is in the number
    5= rigid 4 wheel steer
    30=3 ton
    70=7 meters
    The model numbers equate to maximum lift capacity and maximum lift height. No manufacturers will lift maximum capacity to maximum height. Look at your load chart and you'll see.

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    joe soapy
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    Re: 100hp or 140hp merlo

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim B View Post
    The model numbers equate to maximum lift capacity and maximum lift height. No manufacturers will lift maximum capacity to maximum height. Look at your load chart and you'll see.
    Hm, seems you are right, although think it probably more a stability issue.
    the tele ram is pretty powerful, and well able to push 3 ton

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    fergie35
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    Re: 100hp or 140hp merlo

    531-70 will lift 3100kgs to 6.2m then at 6.5m it de-rates to 2700kg then at 7m it de-rates to 2400kg. Just looked at the load charts.

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    x121x
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    Re: 100hp or 140hp merlo

    Quote Originally Posted by joe soapy View Post
    the clue is in the number
    5= rigid 4 wheel steer
    30=3 ton
    70=7 meters
    Sorry i feel i may have been right there.........

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    pete
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    Re: 100hp or 140hp merlo

    Quote Originally Posted by Beltbreaker View Post
    Had a 28.7 replaced with 40.7 due to deal and oh so slow hydralics on the 28.7. 40.7 better all round plenty of power for loading/towing straw trailers (keep rad clean) Hydralics very quick and powerful. Fuel use averages just 7.2l /hr over 3300hrs 28.7 was 6.9 over same hrs. Only issues have been plastic bushes on axle (wear item) and pipes rubbing inside boom.

    There was no physical difference between the 28.7 to the 40.7 in stature so I would doubt there is a difference with the 34.7

    As someone said 34.7 with 120 and bigger pump may be a good comprimise but I would now miss larger capacity.

    Cheers BB
    7.2 litres per hour! Just looked at some figures I recorded for the scorpion 6030
    And it was on 5.2 litres over 13 days last winter! 160 litres in 30 hrs!

  29. #29
    pete
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    Re: 100hp or 140hp merlo

    2 litres per hour less! 700 hrs a year is 1400 litres x 65p = 910 over 10 years this has to be a big factor when it comes to change but no manufactures divulge! Any other examples?

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    funnyfarm
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    Re: 100hp or 140hp merlo

    Quote Originally Posted by pete View Post
    7.2 litres per hour! Just looked at some figures I recorded for the scorpion 6030
    And it was on 5.2 litres over 13 days last winter! 160 litres in 30 hrs!
    very difficult to compare unless you have the 2 machines on the same farm,same driver, doing the same duties.

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