could do with some rain

Originally Posted by b slicker

You still can't deny that he has probably done more to enhance the image of British farming than anyone else. I'm discounting Dan Archer, because he wasn't a real farmer. So keep smiling Guy, and be as outrageous as you like.

Where is Ollie??

Perhaps ill timed on EP's and perhaps a tad thoughtless but nervertheless he was describing his set of problems.

I think we all feel very badly for those affected by the disasterous weather in the West, Wales. NI, and North country. There must be not much worse than seeing a years labour sinking.
Most in this corner of Essex had a later harvest than in recent years and afew to finish (probably less to do with weather than organisation what do I know).
Oddly I had percieved a wet crappy summer in our part of the world to be told by a Met man that rain fall was slightly below ave, temps were slighty above ave but very much less sun than ave. To sum up here in Essex it drizzled quite a lot on dull and dark days and the ave temps were kept high because night temps were high due to cloud cover. It seems that the jet stream has at last moved North so a more settled period might be expected over much of UK. Downside of this may be less settled weather for north of Scotland. (only repeating what I was told so please don't hold me to this).

well we are just starting the harvest and it was non stop torrential rain last night.its the same old story if it is sunny in the south of england the news tell folk to get the sun screen on.regardless of severe weather warnings for Scotland and northern england.even snails forecast for its going to stop raining mid week whats the problem.the problem is our forecast is for rain as far as we can see and we are in to short days now.

Originally Posted by b slicker

You still can't deny that he has probably done more to enhance the image of British farming than anyone else. I'm discounting Dan Archer, because he wasn't a real farmer. So keep smiling Guy, and be as outrageous as you like.

In a small pond filled with apathetic and demoralised fish it is easy to be the biggest. It doesn't mean I have to like him or his attitude.

[QUOTE=Lumpkin;12929] "a small pond filled with apathetic and demoralised fish"

I'm reassured that I'm not the only one in the farming community who excites your contempt ,

I havent a clue who you are but apologies for exciting your disdain. Lifes too short for enmity so lets be virtual friends .

Peasant

Originally Posted by Lumpkin

In a small pond filled with apathetic and demoralised fish it is easy to be the biggest. It doesn't mean I have to like him or his attitude.

you don't sound apathetic or demoralised to me

Originally Posted by Lumpkin

In a small pond filled with apathetic and demoralised fish it is easy to be the biggest. It doesn't mean I have to like him or his attitude.

A lot of farmers might be feeling demoralised just now, but to refer to them as apathetic is not only crasse, but shows a complete lack of feeling for the farming community. Their are thousands of farmers across the country just now, and thank heavens for them, who will do whatever it takes to secure the harvest.

The same applies in any farming crisis: farmers can be depended on to make the best of a bad job.

Sometimes it pays to reflect on what you have just written, and consider whether or not what you are saying is fair.

Originally Posted by b slicker

A lot of farmers might be feeling demoralised just now, but to refer to them as apathetic is not only crasse, but shows a complete lack of feeling for the farming community. Their are thousands of farmers across the country just now, and thank heavens for them, who will do whatever it takes to secure the harvest.

The same applies in any farming crisis: farmers can be depended on to make the best of a bad job.

Sometimes it pays to reflect on what you have just written, and consider whether or not what you are saying is fair.

indeed one should always be retrospective

Originally Posted by essexpeasant

Possibly I was being a little mischevious but there really is no need to take offence as none was intended. Even so, seed beds are not very clever on my heavy dirt thus giving poor seeds to soil contact and so the seeds are in danger of lying in damp condituons without enough moisture to make them chit.

I'm not wishing a couple of inches of rain over the next fortnight any anyone else other than on me.

The other horrid fact is that the wet weather of the last three weeks has raised the price of what I have in the shed by £20,000. But then I got a six inches of rain May 24th- June 8th which wiped a lot of yield off the rape and peas.

It is all part of the many ironies that the weather has thrown at me in the past and will throw at me in the future. But as my old Dad used to say to me when I thought the weather was being cruel and unfair to me in particular - "make the best of the weather as it is rather than as you would like it to be".

And if there was any farmer out there who said he took no benefit from the misfortune of other farmers then he would be a liar. The lovely price spikes we all enjoyed last year was largely on the back of a lot of misery for our fellows in Australia.

And which of us wouldn't wish for a repeat of the pattern of the 2007 world harvests in 2009?

Having watched farmers on the box over the last week bemoaning what the weather was doing to their crops a thought struck me - what other industry would rush to the media to tell its consumers that thanks to the weather then this year their produce would be disgusting crap?

It's a funny old world.

Spend the £20K on a decent set of heavy rolls and roll the seedbed to improve the seed/soil contact.

Regards

Longwool

PS When I arrived home it had rained again today

Longwool,

we have aforesaid roll and, trust me, in light of the drought, a herd of elephants in stilletos would not give me the seeds to soil contact I now desire on my grade four marsh clays.

In light of my predicament I find your remarks flippant, ill-timed, antagonistic, insensitive and whatever else it was you said about me.

I'm glad you Cornish are now getting the break in the weather you have long been praying for. I hope it not too overdue.

Peasant

Originally Posted by essexpeasant

Longwool,

we have aforesaid roll and, trust me, in light of the drought, a herd of elephants in stilletos would not give me the seeds to soil contact I now desire on my grade four marsh clays.

In light of my predicament I find your remarks flippant, ill-timed, antagonistic, insensitive and whatever else it was you said about me.

I'm glad you Cornish are now getting the break in the weather you have long been praying for. I hope it not too overdue.

Peasant

indeed but it was your good self who chose this path it is a bit churlish to complain when it hasnt led in the intended direction.

now now you chaps weather is a fickle thing it rain in one place not another and so on now it has setteled for a while
as the saying go make hay whilst the sum shines

Originally Posted by b slicker

A lot of farmers might be feeling demoralised just now, but to refer to them as apathetic is not only crasse, but shows a complete lack of feeling for the farming community. Their are thousands of farmers across the country just now, and thank heavens for them, who will do whatever it takes to secure the harvest.

The same applies in any farming crisis: farmers can be depended on to make the best of a bad job.

Firstly, crass doesn't have an e on the end, in English at least.

My use of the word apathetic was chosen carefully and deliberately. It has nothing to do with the farming community's abilities to recover from or make the best of the awful situation that the weather has created this year, this is something at which we excel, something about which no other industry can even start to dream about. If I had wanted to belittle the efforts of those afflicted, that is what I would have done.

Apathy has more to do with our inability to work together in any cohesive manner, to stand up to the ridiculous tide of pointless control and legislation that is being imposed upon us on a day to day basis by both national and European government. Apathy refers to the poor public image we as an industry have to some extent created for ourselves but which the mass media have picked up and run with. My new best friend the Essex Peasant is one of the few who can actually say they are doing something positive to counter this. Without apathy, British farming could be one of the most powerful lobbying groups in England, but no, it is easier to sit back and moan about being screwed while assuming that it is somebody else's job to do something about it.

Originally Posted by b slicker

Sometimes it pays to reflect on what you have just written, and consider whether or not what you are saying is fair.

On this one, I couldn't agree more. I might add, however, that it also pays to read what others have written before hitting that Submit Reply button too.

[herd333]

While I appreciate harvest conditions have been terrible for a lot of folk,I gather yields have generally been very good.Has anyone any ideas on why this might be when there has been very little sunshine this summer to fatten up crops?

Grumpy

you are right, I am churlish but I also eschew earnestness.

I like these forums as an opportunity to sound off in a full-blooded manner and I don't mind getting as good as I get, if we all spent out times being sensitive and PC to everyone esle I suspect it would get very anodyne and dull.

My problem is, every bugger seems to know who I am, time for another nomme de plume methinks.

Still no decent rain forecast next week. Blood pressure and high pressure building over north east Essex, I might need to let some steam out on BFF again soon.

Peasant

Originally Posted by essexpeasant

Grumpy

you are right, I am churlish but I also eschew earnestness.

I like these forums as an opportunity to sound off in a full-blooded manner and I don't mind getting as good as I get, if we all spent out times being sensitive and PC to everyone esle I suspect it would get very anodyne and dull.

My problem is, every bugger seems to know who I am, time for another nomme de plume methinks.

Still no decent rain forecast next week. Blood pressure and high pressure building over north east Essex, I might need to let some steam out on BFF again soon.

Peasant

well every one knows who i am in my locality so much so that several folk address me as grumpy in real life.which is rather alarming maybe i have over cultivated my image on here.but i always eschew a healthy dislike for political correctness whether on here or real life.

My problem is, every bugger seems to know who I am, time for another nomme de plume methinks.

Time to nominate some nommes

hang on the nomme is in Fife

Originally Posted by essex_pete

Time to nominate some nommes

hang on the nomme is in Fife

let me help you out as you seem nonplussed a common affliction of folk from Essex i hear.the name is in fife, seems to be a nonsensical statement but then again you are from Essex

Was it a mis-print in CPM re drier fuel usage ? A whole 6000l for harvest - I am using that a week to keep up with a not very busy TX68. Plenty still to do. 4 hours cutting = 20 hours drying.

Sorry grumpy

Comp ed did not work to well on my French (Essex comp at that).

Getting nomme confused with gnome