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    Karro pigs on the move..

    http://vimeo.com/69756912

    Short video showing the Karro pig operation to get pigs down the road whilst complying with journey times for high welfare pork.

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    Re: Karro pigs on the move..

    Good video just a pity some of the B&B people up here are loosing out also got to be a loss for grain locally.

    I did here some were still getting batches after the letter saying they were getting no more


    http://www.thegrocer.co.uk/fmcg/fres...236124.article

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    Re: Karro pigs on the move..

    Id thought these weaners were going straight to Yorkshire from up here.
    Our letter was very non committal as to wether we were never getting again or if we werent. Had heard some getting weaners, but not on a regular cycle.

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    Re: Karro pigs on the move..

    So Karro are taking pigs from experienced pig farmers in Scotland with a proven history of good results in purpose built buildings and taking 3 weeks to send them 100s of miles to ratty old sheds with plastic sheets tied to cattle gates?

    And they show it on video?

    Wow.
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    Re: Karro pigs on the move..

    Quote Originally Posted by its yourself View Post
    So Karro are taking pigs from experienced pig farmers in Scotland with a proven history of good results in purpose built buildings and taking 3 weeks to send them 100s of miles to ratty old sheds with plastic sheets tied to cattle gates?

    And they show it on video?

    Wow.
    The fact is that the results through these so called purpose built sheds has not actually been terribly good and the Company ended up paying piss poor contract rearing rates and yet still losing money.
    The new regime is supplying Yorkshire finishers with a first grade 15kg weaner pig.... converted cattle buildings and straw courts combined with low stocking rate letting this little pig grow to slaughter weight without medication and without the welfare issues of purpose built sheds such as flank marking and tail biting. Mix it up with a premium pence per kilo on the finished pig and the business model looks much better.

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    Re: Karro pigs on the move..

    Quote Originally Posted by pig fighter View Post
    The fact is that the results through these so called purpose built sheds has not actually been terribly good and the Company ended up paying piss poor contract rearing rates and yet still losing money.
    The new regime is supplying Yorkshire finishers with a first grade 15kg weaner pig.... converted cattle buildings and straw courts combined with low stocking rate letting this little pig grow to slaughter weight without medication and without the welfare issues of purpose built sheds such as flank marking and tail biting. Mix it up with a premium pence per kilo on the finished pig and the business model looks much better.
    They were in new straw courts funded by the SRDP in many cases, with low stocking rates, without welfare issues, built specially for Vion/Karro pigs. If there was an issue it was in their own units and shambolic management.

    If they could not make money in much much better accommodation than the ramshackle example in the video how will they do it after adding a 3 week stopover and 300 mile+ transport costs? The premium does not come close to covering transport.

    Karro and its MBA style business backers might well be in trouble with this system after the first day of transport disruption in winter.

    Grampian Country Foods was a 1 billion business. A few more decisions like the above will see Karro's Endless backers left with nothing.
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    Re: Karro pigs on the move..

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny400 View Post
    Id thought these weaners were going straight to Yorkshire from up here.
    Our letter was very non committal as to wether we were never getting again or if we werent. Had heard some getting weaners, but not on a regular cycle.
    I think most of them are going straight down here

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    Re: Karro pigs on the move..

    Quote Originally Posted by lordbonville View Post
    I think most of them are going straight down here
    They were hauling babies direct to East Yorkshire for a short period while the buildings and lairage facilities in the Borders were winding down previous contracts. All 8kg pigs are now taken to 15kg during a 20 day standstill in the Borders with a weekly throughput of 3500 piglets.

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